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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 05:51 AM
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What is that md3 fluid you have in there? Dexron III?
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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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What is that md3 fluid you have in there? Dexron III?
Mercon dexron 3.

http://www.amazon.com/Chevron-39770-.../dp/B0097SBAR8
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 12:15 AM
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The connectors where fine. Turns out in two weeks, my fluid has gone from fine to smelling like a batch of bad barbeque. I'm slightly confused by that. The only time I got the trans super hot was a long time ago when I did 15+ miles on the sand dunes in high range without giving it a break. It was warm enough I could not touch the trans tunnel carpet for long.
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 03:25 AM
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You changed the fluid 2 weeks ago? Is that when you used the Chevron fluid?
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Radi
You changed the fluid 2 weeks ago? Is that when you used the Chevron fluid?
I'm SOOOO confused right now.
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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I changed the fluid about a year ago. When I checked it two weeks ago it was fine. Now it is burnt.
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 03:14 PM
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Is it shifting in and out of OD a lot? If so that could explain the burnt fluid. When you lock out OD it will lock the converter in third. So you get about 2800-3000 rpm which isn't that high.

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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jpmarine6786
Is it shifting in and out of OD a lot? If so that could explain the burnt fluid. When you lock out OD it will lock the converter in third. So you get about 2800-3000 rpm which isn't that high.
No the problem is that its staying in OD and won't unlock the torque converter without shifting.
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by toasterknight
No the problem is that its staying in OD and won't unlock the torque converter without shifting.
I'm pretty sure that's how it's designed. Once mine goes above 45 it will lock the converter in OD no matter how hard I push the peddle before a downshift. I don't think your has a problem, unless mine does too. Which is possible.
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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Change your fluid.
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Originally Posted by madmanmarty
Change your fluid.
I just bought a case of fluid. I plan on doing it this weekend.
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Originally Posted by toasterknight
I just bought a case of fluid. I plan on doing it this weekend.
Good.
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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Here's the fluid that came out. Black chunks in the bottom too. 240 miles trip today then will do it again tomorrow.
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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Black chunks? That could be a bad sign. How many miles in the transmission?
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by toasterknight
Here's the fluid that came out. Black chunks in the bottom too. 240 miles trip today then will do it again tomorrow.

What is that reflection in the ATF by your left thumb? Looks familiar. LOL
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