Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Auto Shutdown Relay Fuse Blowing

Old Mar 9, 2021 | 06:33 PM
  #1  
xanderz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default Auto Shutdown Relay Fuse Blowing

Hey my 96 Cherokee keeps blowing its fuse F20, which concerns the auto shutdown relay in the car. I need to figure out how to stop it from blowing this fuse, because obviously it doesn't let the car start when this is happening. I've looked for exposed wires and haven't found anything - not to say I haven't missed something. I have a digital multimeter, but I was confused on how to go about using it. I was wondering if anyone had some tips for me to find the reason why my fuse keeps blowing, or if anyone has had the same problem.
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2021 | 09:48 PM
  #2  
dzywicki's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 793
Likes: 104
From: Aldie, VA
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Is there a particular condition that is causing it? I had this problem in my 99 Cherokee. It started after I replaced the alternator. It kept randomly blowing the ASD fuse. I finally figured out that it was when the engine revved over a certain rpm, the fuse would blow. I swapped the alternator with a different one and no more blown fuse.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2021 | 02:46 PM
  #3  
xanderz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default

Well, the first time I had the issue was when I rolled to a stop on a slight decline. The fuse popped and the car shut off. The next time was after a drive I parked, and then twenty minutes later I went to start the car again and the car started and then the fuse popped and it shut off again. It has not started since, and has gone through two other fuses, so I need to find out why the fuse is blowing.
Reply
Old May 15, 2022 | 04:51 PM
  #4  
alanarbor's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default Got the same thing going on

I don't have an answer for you, but I have the same problem happening, but only after it comes up to full operating temperature. I don't have the time to be trying to chase down shorts, so I have a pro working on it. If I get any good information, I'll pass it on here.
Reply
Old May 15, 2022 | 09:30 PM
  #5  
lawsoncl's Avatar
CF Veteran
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 4,365
Likes: 1,215
Year: 1989
Model: Comanche (MJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Inspect the wiring harness along the fuel injectors, especially where it crosses over to the firewall for chaffing and shorting. Bad motor mounts cause excessive flexing of this harness, and can cause the wires to fray and break inside the wiring loom.
Reply
Old May 16, 2022 | 04:28 PM
  #6  
alanarbor's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default Got a diagnosis

Well here's what came up. Guy was running diagnostics on the computer when the engine shut down. Apparently the Downstream O2 sensor once it reached a certain temperature would develop an excessive current draw which would then blow the fuse. Never got a CEL or anything like that. So hopefully that's that. Still gonna carry some extra fuses just in case.
Reply
Old May 16, 2022 | 07:55 PM
  #7  
djgrayxj's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 560
Likes: 25
From: West Covina, Ca.
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Note from DJ to alanarbor

Just for clarity for further reader what is the year of your Jeep and the number of the fuse that was blowing?
Reply
Old May 18, 2022 | 08:14 AM
  #8  
alanarbor's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default

Originally Posted by djgrayxj
Note from DJ to alanarbor

Just for clarity for further reader what is the year of your Jeep and the number of the fuse that was blowing?
Sorry, it's a 1996 xj 4.0, and it's fuse #20
Reply
Old May 18, 2022 | 08:27 AM
  #9  
alanarbor's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default Shop was wrong.

Originally Posted by alanarbor
Well here's what came up. Guy was running diagnostics on the computer when the engine shut down. Apparently the Downstream O2 sensor once it reached a certain temperature would develop an excessive current draw which would then blow the fuse. Never got a CEL or anything like that. So hopefully that's that. Still gonna carry some extra fuses just in case.
Well paid good money for bad info. Replaced the O2 sensor, and the fuse is still blowing. I'm kind of wondering how the hell they got the diagnosis though, since I'm getting no communication with my scan tool at home, (powers up but vehicle doesn't respond) and I checked it on my wife's vehicle in case the tool itself was bad, but it connected just fine. At least the jeep is in my driveway now, and I can carpool to work.

Any new ideas?
Reply
Old May 18, 2022 | 08:31 AM
  #10  
alanarbor's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default Shop was wrong.

Duplicate post

Last edited by alanarbor; May 18, 2022 at 10:30 AM. Reason: Dupe post
Reply
Old May 18, 2022 | 08:53 AM
  #11  
alanarbor's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Default Shop was wrong.

Dupe post deleted.

Last edited by alanarbor; May 18, 2022 at 10:29 AM. Reason: Accidentally multiple posted
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2023 | 12:26 PM
  #12  
michael.sass2020's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2023
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Default

My 2012 Grand Cher keeps blowing Fuse M21 (ASD Relay fuse).

My MIL came on and threw code P0430 Catalytic System Efficiency Below Threshold Bank 2 a few months ago. I did a bunch of trouble shooting, cleaned the MAF sensor, ran some cat cleaner through and it seemed to fix the problem. Fast forward a few months my wife was driving and the car stalled completely. We thought it was due to the Fuel Pump Relay recall we never had addressed. Had the Fuel pump recall performed and the car still didn't start.

Did a bunch more trouble shooting, checked the ASD relay with a voltmeter for resistance in the 50-200 ohm range as well as checked the relay with power to the control to do a click test. All checked out. Checked that the ASD was getting good voltage and it read 12.2v coming in. Checked for continuity on the ground to PCM Connector C3 and located the ground pin. All checked out. Finally thought to check the fuse it was blown.

Replaced the fuse, started right up no issues. Drove around yesterday and today. On our way to run some errands this morning the MIL came on for the P0430 code again. got to where we were going, parked the car around 9:45. Got back in to go home around 1230. About 10 mins later the car stalled. Checked the fuse and sure enough M21 popped.

Do you think P0430 could actually have something to do with it? I'm wondering if your mechanic researched it and found Code P0430 as a related fix and just assumed that might be your issue without the truck actually throwing the code versus my situation where the fuse blew after the code was thrown what seems to be twice now.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jayw32
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
30
Sep 22, 2024 12:20 PM
Josh Henry
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
17
Jul 3, 2018 07:46 PM
veritasaequita
Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
2
Sep 27, 2017 05:51 PM
mac tire
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
2
Mar 21, 2010 12:27 AM
905guy
Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
0
Jul 27, 2009 03:11 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:58 AM.