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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 05:01 AM
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Hey guys,

I'm in the middle of figuring out what to do with my Cherokee, repair, or send to the junkyard because there's too much to fix and it will cost me more than finding another XJ...

I'm asking myself this now because I finally got my lift kit and on my way to installing it at a garage, the alternator seized up (adding an item to a list of fixes)...

But the biggest thing is the bent unibody...

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happened during this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL...ailpage#t=227s

So basically, knowing that I have no welding experience, and my budget is tight... What would you guys do if you were me?
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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I bought an xj same unibody condition as that bent but if yours drives straight i wouldnt worry about it even thats probably considered totaled
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 07:13 AM
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You got out of your XJ, leaving it in neutral (while running). And put your trust in the e break on a hill? Am I getting that correctly. You might want to add that to the rest of the "FAIL" video collection on you tube. I would start looking for another '90's XJ. In the mean time, you can Finnish killing that one. And save it for parts. If there is anything worth while left on it.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 04:14 PM
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i had mine up on jack stands a few mounths ago, only 2 or 3 were touchin the truck at all times and if i pushed to hard on something it would go to the opposite corner... it drives straight without problems....

i am thinking of upgrading wth some unibody stiffeners (there are plenty of bolt and weld on kits in aftermarket) but b4 that i want to take it to an autobody shop.. most well equipped shops have tools for frame repair and can staighten and refab a truck back to stock condition.

i suggest finding a shop that does this and get an estimate b4 writing it of, i think this is a great thing for any unitbody as when buying used they usualy already have slight bend in them from a life of regular road use.

after doin this as well you should notice a change in handeling for the beter, in th long run for keeping your unibody in check i recomend a steering brace and any kind of body armour added be connected integraly with the unibody..(any1 correct me or add to any of this)

diesel chero's are sick id hate to see it go to a junckyard, hope all goes well.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 91 limited owner
You got out of your XJ, leaving it in neutral (while running). And put your trust in the e break on a hill? Am I getting that correctly. You might want to add that to the rest of the "FAIL" video collection on you tube. I would start looking for another '90's XJ. In the mean time, you can Finnish killing that one. And save it for parts. If there is anything worth while left on it.
You got it, inexperienced me having fun, and yep, this incident could have been avoided so easily... I was just silly and regret so much...! :-(

Well, a part from an alt, tranny leak and cooling issue, there's nothing else wrong with it. I believe... And getting another XJ is going to cost me more than fixing this one (apart from the frame).

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i had mine up on jack stands a few mounths ago, only 2 or 3 were touchin the truck at all times and if i pushed to hard on something it would go to the opposite corner... it drives straight without problems....

i am thinking of upgrading wth some unibody stiffeners (there are plenty of bolt and weld on kits in aftermarket) but b4 that i want to take it to an autobody shop.. most well equipped shops have tools for frame repair and can staighten and refab a truck back to stock condition.

i suggest finding a shop that does this and get an estimate b4 writing it of, i think this is a great thing for any unitbody as when buying used they usualy already have slight bend in them from a life of regular road use.

after doin this as well you should notice a change in handeling for the beter, in th long run for keeping your unibody in check i recomend a steering brace and any kind of body armour added be connected integraly with the unibody..(any1 correct me or add to any of this)

diesel chero's are sick id hate to see it go to a junckyard, hope all goes well.
Thanks,

Unfortunately, I already visited a shop and they said it was "unrepairable"... I could visit others but I think they'd charge me a price that would be greater than buying another sane-bodied XJ!!

It's our French culture, people aren't attached to their cars here :-( Except me!! haha

Luckily, diesels are much more popular so finding another is no difficulty at all!
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 04:27 AM
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Why scrap it? Jeeze people give up way too easily. Bring it to a good frame shop and have them take a look (I would think they have frame shops in France) . A little tug here, a pull there, and she will be straight and narrow once again. When I did repairables (fix insurance salvage totalled vehicles) I fixed ALOT worse with full confidence in the vehicle so much so my girlfriend drives one I did. Bring it to private frame shops and they will not do the unrepairable bit on you (translated I the mechanic don't think you have any money and even if you did I don't feel like doing the job). Must be a low unemployment rate over there to turn work away lol.

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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyriac
I lol'd, sorry.

Anyways, that look pretty repairable. Is it just the one side? I would get another "estimate" from a better frame/body shop. The only thing I really see it effecting is the leaf spring mount.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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You are lucky that didn't kill you on the way down!
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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chain it to that stump and give her some she'll pull out lol
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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I lol'd, sorry.

Anyways, that look pretty repairable. Is it just the one side? I would get another "estimate" from a better frame/body shop. The only thing I really see it effecting is the leaf spring mount.
I'm still rolling. That was hilarious.

Dude, don't give up. Diesels are rare. Keep it, fix it, love it.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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I didn't give up!

Another bent unibody thread... help!-forumrunner_20120928_113539.jpg

Neither should you. Although mine isn't quite bent like yours.

Btw didn't you make a thread about this already?
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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Don't ask me how that other pic got in there my fat fingers must a hit it. Damn phone
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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Oh man. Just watched the video. I'm sorry to laugh at your misfortune but that was funny. Your Jeep said "oh, you just gonna walk away, huh?"

Also that diesel sounds awesome. Would love to hear that in my XJ
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2

I'm still rolling. That was hilarious.

Dude, don't give up. Diesels are rare. Keep it, fix it, love it.
I'm sure they aren't that rare in Europe where he probably is.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tx9h6e4cuda
Why scrap it? Jeeze people give up way too easily. Bring it to a good frame shop and have them take a look (I would think they have frame shops in France) . A little tug here, a pull there, and she will be straight and narrow once again. When I did repairables (fix insurance salvage totalled vehicles) I fixed ALOT worse with full confidence in the vehicle so much so my girlfriend drives one I did. Bring it to private frame shops and they will not do the unrepairable bit on you (translated I the mechanic don't think you have any money and even if you did I don't feel like doing the job). Must be a low unemployment rate over there to turn work away lol.
i agree iv seen way worse vehices come out litteraly new from good shops.. please keep looking for a good shop alot of guys would die to have diesel cherokee.

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