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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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you tested the starter before by jumping the solenoid havent you?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by truckntractorhick
yep mine is a stick and u cannot start without the clutch full depressed!
any idea where that switch is on yours? mine is auto.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Throttle Jockey
you tested the starter before by jumping the solenoid havent you?
by that u mean use a screw driver and touch the starter nut with the smaller nut right? and it should start?
U know i havent tried it since i dropped the column, but before that i did try it and it sparked, even took it to auto zone to test it. And it passed.

U think i might of fried the starter after dropping the column, adjusting the ign. switch, replacing it, and testing the starter again?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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i dont think so, you havent been able to start it since you had it tested?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Throttle Jockey
i dont think so, you havent been able to start it since you had it tested?
Yea i started it remember i said that after i found out it was not the starter since it passed, i figured it was the ign. switch.
So when i started taking apart the column, i dropped it to have more room, and thats when it started. so im pretty sure the starter is working.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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okay, do you have a haynes manual?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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ok...first off if you jumped your solenoid on the starter and it did NOT start... then its your starter... yeah it tested good at autozone... but maybe the time they tested it... it would have started... doesnt matter... its different when you stick a flywheel to it... REPLACE the starter... my 98 dodge diesel did the same thing... eventually the started went all together after leaving me stranded... if you install a new starter and it does NOT fix your problem then you DO NOT have a good connection at your battery, starter, or ground for the battery at the engine block... i KNOW you love your battery and the wireing but if it wasnt one of these things or the starter then jumping the soleoid WOULD start the jeep... as for the switch to start without the clutch in... from the factory its a safety switch... when the switch fails it fails to constant ON... i have a 5 speed and mine starts without the clutch in also... but the switch it high and id rather spend my money elsewhere... change your starter... then send me a case of beer later... lol
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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you make a good point but if that switch fails to constant on its no longer a saftey.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Throttle Jockey
okay, do you have a haynes manual?
no but i have onlin manuals i have downloaded.
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ok...first off if you jumped your solenoid on the starter and it did NOT start... then its your starter... yeah it tested good at autozone... but maybe the time they tested it... it would have started... doesnt matter... its different when you stick a flywheel to it... REPLACE the starter... my 98 dodge diesel did the same thing... eventually the started went all together after leaving me stranded... if you install a new starter and it does NOT fix your problem then you DO NOT have a good connection at your battery, starter, or ground for the battery at the engine block... i KNOW you love your battery and the wireing but if it wasnt one of these things or the starter then jumping the soleoid WOULD start the jeep... as for the switch to start without the clutch in... from the factory its a safety switch... when the switch fails it fails to constant ON... i have a 5 speed and mine starts without the clutch in also... but the switch it high and id rather spend my money elsewhere... change your starter... then send me a case of beer later... lol
whoa, lol that was pretty straight forward. and by far you are right.

But DAMN, Isnt it jus weird ? I mean im always told if it aint broke dont fix it. Well the starter wasnt broke, so i instead of spending 60 bucks, jus spent 10 for the switch. But i mean yeah i might as well get a new starter.
I guess my only real thing to do is get a starter.
The connection is good cuz power is getting through, might be the ground though.....
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
lol haha that felt better.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
ok...first off if you jumped your solenoid on the starter and it did NOT start... then its your starter... yeah it tested good at autozone... but maybe the time they tested it... it would have started... doesnt matter... its different when you stick a flywheel to it... REPLACE the starter... my 98 dodge diesel did the same thing... eventually the started went all together after leaving me stranded... if you install a new starter and it does NOT fix your problem then you DO NOT have a good connection at your battery, starter, or ground for the battery at the engine block... i KNOW you love your battery and the wireing but if it wasnt one of these things or the starter then jumping the soleoid WOULD start the jeep... as for the switch to start without the clutch in... from the factory its a safety switch... when the switch fails it fails to constant ON... i have a 5 speed and mine starts without the clutch in also... but the switch it high and id rather spend my money elsewhere... change your starter... then send me a case of beer later... lol

OK GUYS every vehicle ive ever had has been a 5 speed, and the only one ive driven that had the switch or button that keeps your vehicle from starting if the clutch is not in, that you are mentioning is on a 2004 toyota tacoma, and its not on defaultly. The no clutch start is a slightly newer feature that doesnt even exist on my 95, so his 88 would most likely not have that. Coming from experience of running a car through a garage door when i didnt put the clutch in lol
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oh and huntingman, hope u live close to the southwest otherwise beer will be gone
and thats lager not soda lol
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by studmuffin
no but i have onlin manuals i have downloaded.

whoa, lol that was pretty straight forward. and by far you are right.

But DAMN, Isnt it jus weird ? I mean im always told if it aint broke dont fix it. Well the starter wasnt broke, so i instead of spending 60 bucks, jus spent 10 for the switch. But i mean yeah i might as well get a new starter.
I guess my only real thing to do is get a starter.
The connection is good cuz power is getting through, might be the ground though.....
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
lol haha that felt better.
you keep saying the connection is good because the fuel pump comes on... how many times have you got in your vehicle went to start... the radio come on... the lights come on...everything... but the batteries dead and you have to jumpstart... the starter takes WAY more then any fuel pump to turn the motor over... so this doesnt convince me at all...
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
OK GUYS every vehicle ive ever had has been a 5 speed, and the only one ive driven that had the switch or button that keeps your vehicle from starting if the clutch is not in, that you are mentioning is on a 2004 toyota tacoma, and its not on defaultly. The no clutch start is a slightly newer feature that doesnt even exist on my 95, so his 88 would most likely not have that. Coming from experience of running a car through a garage door when i didnt put the clutch in lol
this may be true about not even having one... its very possible... but ive owned 4 5 speeds and the other 3 had them... 94 toyotapickup... 95 cavalier... and a 01 cavalier... each had the switch... its possible jeep didnt but i would think they would... either way... it doesnt realy matter... lol
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by studmuffin
oh and huntingman, hope u live close to the southwest otherwise beer will be gone
and thats lager not soda lol
trying my first lager right now... why i never had before i dunno... guess i thought it would taste like Ale.. yuck... but drinking a yuengling now and i likes!!
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by studmuffin
Yea i started it remember i said that after i found out it was not the starter since it passed, i figured it was the ign. switch.
So when i started taking apart the column, i dropped it to have more room, and thats when it started. so im pretty sure the starter is working.
this could go round and round with no resolve. you down loaded manuals. hopefully one of them is a wiring diagram. you are farely certain the starter is good. have some one turn the key to the start position and hold it, with your test light see if you are getting power to the small post on the starter. if you do and it does not crank, then yes it is a bad starter. if you are not getting power there then something else is wrong. use the wiring digram to trace the start circuit and test each component from the ignition switch to the starter. you will find the problem.
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