Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Air cleaner hose?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-31-2012, 10:24 AM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
CA90XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default Air cleaner hose?

I don't have a pic of this yet but I can get one if needed. Basically, I need a new air cleaner hose because I semi-damaged the one I have putting in a new electric fan assembly a while ago. The hose itself is really old anyway and I wanted to see if I could maybe nudge it down or around a bit to get around the fan I installed.

The hose itself comes out of the bottom of my air cleaner and goes right into the middle of the engine block somewhere. I have a 1990 XJ 4.0 RENIX. Thoughts? I hope this is a fairly easy thing to correct. The hose now is like smashed somewhat between the fan assembly and the air cleaner box.
Old 03-31-2012, 12:18 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
EvstaG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St. Albert
Posts: 731
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Default

Like the red arrow or the green arrow on the picture below?
Name:  fig5.jpg
Views: 4796
Size:  35.5 KB
Old 03-31-2012, 12:47 PM
  #3  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
CA90XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Actually neither...this hose isn't hard plastic either, it's expandable and is made out of some sort of cloth-like material. It connects to the engine below the cylinder head also. It comes out of the very bottom of the air cleaner.
Old 03-31-2012, 01:04 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
EvstaG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St. Albert
Posts: 731
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Default

Are you sure its connected to the engine on one end? Because the hose you are talking about is an alternate route for the air intake. Rather than taking in cold air from the outside, a switch on the front of your airbox switches to let the air flow in from this tube, meaning that the engine will receive warm engine bay air rather than cold air. This is for when the engine is cold and theoretically helps it warm up faster. This is what this if for to the best of my knowledge, but I haven't heard of an instance where the hose if connected on both ends...
Old 03-31-2012, 02:31 PM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
XJ.89.Limited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Nazareth/Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L 242ci I6
Default

Originally Posted by EvstaG
Are you sure its connected to the engine on one end? Because the hose you are talking about is an alternate route for the air intake. Rather than taking in cold air from the outside, a switch on the front of your airbox switches to let the air flow in from this tube, meaning that the engine will receive warm engine bay air rather than cold air. This is for when the engine is cold and theoretically helps it warm up faster. This is what this if for to the best of my knowledge, but I haven't heard of an instance where the hose if connected on both ends...
x2 on that. I know the hose you are talking about. I always wondered where the hell it went to. Last weekend I went underneath to try to see where it went but I couldn't find the ending. I assume it goes to the exhaust or something near it to warm the air up. My hose collapsed in on itself and I have no problems with it. Just let it go buddy. Don't worry about it. As for the switch up front, it is controlled my a vacuum line and it really doesn't alter the engine in any way. I tested it a few times and heard no difference in how the engine ran. I was actually thinking of disconnecting it and letting all the air come from out front.
Old 03-31-2012, 03:10 PM
  #6  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,875
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

It's a preheater hose from the exhaust manifold. Unless you live in Antartica or Gnome, Alaska, ditch it.
Old 03-31-2012, 04:13 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
CA90XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I actually live in San Diego so I guess...I don't even need it?
Old 03-31-2012, 04:27 PM
  #8  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,875
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by CA90XJ
I actually live in San Diego so I guess...I don't even need it?
Nah. Spend your time and money on more useful things like a good ground refreshing and cable upgrade.
Old 03-31-2012, 10:36 PM
  #9  
CF Veteran
 
XJ.89.Limited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Nazareth/Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L 242ci I6
Default

Agreed^
Old 03-31-2012, 11:06 PM
  #10  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,875
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Yep. With all the global warming and such, I see that these preheater hoses may be outlawed in the near future.
Old 03-31-2012, 11:22 PM
  #11  
CF Veteran
 
austinjoe13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Northern MN
Posts: 2,433
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: Renix 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by CA90XJ
Actually neither...this hose isn't hard plastic either, it's expandable and is made out of some sort of cloth-like material. It connects to the engine below the cylinder head also. It comes out of the very bottom of the air cleaner.
Thermostatic air cleaner. On cold starts a vacuum valve opens up and draws air from around the exhaust manifold. Don't worry about it.
Old 04-01-2012, 08:48 AM
  #12  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
CA90XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Just to triple check, I finally got pictures:





Old 04-01-2012, 12:54 PM
  #13  
CF Veteran
 
austinjoe13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Northern MN
Posts: 2,433
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: Renix 4.0
Default

Yep, you're good
Old 04-01-2012, 01:27 PM
  #14  
CF Veteran
 
DFlintstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Nor-Cal Coast
Posts: 10,489
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 17 Posts
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
Default

MMMMM, Now the fun part. Now an extra thermally switched vacuum powered "valve" of sorts, a section of hose, and a port on the exhaust manifold where hot air is available.
My first thought was to rig it to suck the brake fluid out of the fuse box, but that seems pretty weak. Maybe the heated air port has some culinary uses?

Wonder what temp the valve works at. Thermostat for hot buttered rum, on tap?
Old 04-01-2012, 05:29 PM
  #15  
Herp Derp Jerp
 
salad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Parham, ON
Posts: 18,251
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Default

Originally Posted by DFlintstone
MMMMM, Now the fun part. Now an extra thermally switched vacuum powered "valve" of sorts, a section of hose, and a port on the exhaust manifold where hot air is available.
My first thought was to rig it to suck the brake fluid out of the fuse box, but that seems pretty weak. Maybe the heated air port has some culinary uses?

Wonder what temp the valve works at. Thermostat for hot buttered rum, on tap?
In-dash fondue would kick ***. Especially if you set the back seat down


Quick Reply: Air cleaner hose?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:00 AM.