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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Can't you just add a bigger oil filter?
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
I don't have a temp indicator, but what I do have is thermostats. They will just turn the fans on when the oil temp reaches 160 degrees.

You bring up a valid point about fumes. It is necessary to have your engine in repair, exhaust sealed etc.
I guess the only downfall I can see is the fans will be blowing the hot engine air over the coolers. It would be interesting to see how often your fans cycle on the way you have it. If you could duct cool air into the fans somehow I wonder how much more efficient the system would run? I guess you'd have to duct from holes cut in that hollow cowl box or cut holes in the inner fenders and run the ducts from there... Just thinking out loud... The good thing about your system is that it draws hot air out of the engine compartment and uses it to cool the coolers. A 2 for 1 bonus...
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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The fans will take cool air from outside and blow on the engine. You will see. I have spent a fair amount of time thinking this out.

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Do u have any part #'s for the oil filter adaptor, hoses, clamps, & the cooler itself? Ur cooler is differ from the others, smaller & doesnt block the rad like others. Others have 2 much blocking the rad & they need a different location in my opinion! Blockin the rad is a NO NO!!

Why dont u buy 2 temp guages,, fab up an easy mount anywhere away from the heat & then fit one guage on the hot line going in, & the other on the line going out. IMPORTANT,, MAKE SURE the guages you buy can handle the heat and OIL flow. You want the oil to flow just like there not even there!!

Would the vaccum in the motor be affected with these 2 cooler mods?.

I would think that those 2 mods together should make your XJ feel alot better!! The colder the motor the better,, thats the old saying for HP right!! FORGET the stock manual or any stock stats!! Theres nothing in the owners manual about 35" tires now is there!!
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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I don't have the part number for the adaptor. However Chevy does. It is the stock adaptor for remote oil filter an cooler for a 93 S10 with 4.3L engine. The lines are adapted though. The hoses go up to the left front on the S10. They are a combination aluminum and rubber line that goes to the filter and then to the cooler in the radiator. I adapted them by cutting off the aluminum lines and drilling the hole out slightly and then tapping in 1/4" pipe threads. These connectors are a standard Chevy connector that is used on a lot of things including AC lines. This adaptor is handy though since it gets the oil filter out of the drive line.

Instead of the permanent temp gages, I will use a temp probe I use for AC charging to check it.

Vacuum will be unaffected.

These mods as well as the other hood louvers I will fab will make the XJ feel a lot better.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by a1racer
i have been all over the land here and yup i have been there to. one of my favorite places is calico ghost town trails right now very extreme trails there. and we have been hitting the arrow head big bear trails a lot latley
Hey I'm stationed here at Irwin. I didn't know there were any trails in Calico. Do you just go to the Ghost Town or what????
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by thelaststarfighter13
Hey I'm stationed here at Irwin. I didn't know there were any trails in Calico. Do you just go to the Ghost Town or what????
ha ha calico has some of the most difficult in the land around here besides Johnson valley the calico trails are rated a 5 out of 1 to 5 you either need a locker or winch or both i did most of the trail for the first time in my heep with 31 and could not get very far past the entrance of the trail we went to then i went with 33 and got to the water fall and had to be winched up the whole way as i sit now i can make it most of the way up with no help. so yeah it is pretty hard we even broke my buddys axle shaft on his rock buggy that has 38.5's and some Toyota axles setup with the parts necessary from longfield to run 40 with no issues. if you ever want to go let me know
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by a1racer
ha ha calico has some of the most difficult in the land around here besides Johnson valley the calico trails are rated a 5 out of 1 to 5 you either need a locker or winch or both i did most of the trail for the first time in my heep with 31 and could not get very far past the entrance of the trail we went to then i went with 33 and got to the water fall and had to be winched up the whole way as i sit now i can make it most of the way up with no help. so yeah it is pretty hard we even broke my buddys axle shaft on his rock buggy that has 38.5's and some Toyota axles setup with the parts necessary from longfield to run 40 with no issues. if you ever want to go let me know
Sounds like a blast man! I'm trying to get mine running smooth right now. Its got a few problems before I can start on my lift. I've just been running it around the base to work and back and over some weak *** trails that a 2wd can do here until I can trust it. The mojave is not a place you wanna break down. When I get her trail ready we'll meet up.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Sounds good hit me up when you want to go out some time
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Worked on my own oil coolers today, didn't get them done. Too hot. I melt when it gets over 100 degrees.

The coolers I have been adding are not the normal set up. I have some specific cooling problems due to having a V6 under the hood instead of a straight six. It is very hard to get good air flow with a straight six, worse with a wide motor. So much so, I was loosing head gaskets in the rear of the motor due to heat. The cab would get very hot. However, at slow speeds, around town etc. it stayed cool. Also this engine was designed to have an oil cooler. Apparently this design has cooling issues. So I am venting the hood and adding fan operated oil coolers. The basic idea is that the fans will force air from the back of the engine compartment to the front and out the vents. The oil coolers are thermostatically controlled and come on and off at 160 degrees. I have also upgraded my electric radiator fans.



No turning back now



One fan in



View from the top



Two fans in
I didn't finish today, need to get another remote oil filter to make it all fit.

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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Wow! Coming together well! You should be flowing a ton of air in there now! Very interesting, can't wait to see how it turns out!
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Thank you. I will work some more on it today.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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that should be a crazy set up when done and looks like under hood temps wont be an issue any more after cutting that much out
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by a1racer
that should be a crazy set up when done and looks like under hood temps wont be an issue any more after cutting that much out
Yeah, I am looking forward to cooler times.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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We need updates.
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