Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

AC Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 19, 2012 | 11:31 AM
  #1  
92XJGuy's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,448
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default AC Question

So my AC has never blown cold air since I've owned it. I just recently wanted to have a working AC, since I don't want to go doorless on my way to work. I'm wondering if this is as simple as new charge of freon. I turn the cold air on, and it blows air, but last time I checked it was just hot air, and I turned it off shortly after since it made the car worse, lol.

Any ideas?
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2012 | 06:25 PM
  #2  
kjc's Avatar
kjc
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,031
Likes: 4
From: Blue Springs, MO
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L Laredo
Default

'Bout $20-$30 to find out One thing tho.. in order to charge it, the compressor needs to be running.. There's a switch on the receiver/dryer thingie that defaults to 'off' when there's not enough freon in the system. You need to unplug it and short it out to make the compressor run. (be ready to charge it as soon as you start it up, so you don't damage the compressor) Once you get 20 or 30 lbs, you can just plug the switch connector back in, and it'll run normally. You might just buck up and use the freon with the UV dye (to show leaks with a uv light) and some leak sealant, in case it's a small enough leak for that to work. Good luck!
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:46 PM
  #3  
freegdr's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 38
From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

Originally Posted by kjc
'Bout $20-$30 to find out One thing tho.. in order to charge it, the compressor needs to be running.. There's a switch on the receiver/dryer thingie that defaults to 'off' when there's not enough freon in the system. You need to unplug it and short it out to make the compressor run. (be ready to charge it as soon as you start it up, so you don't damage the compressor) Once you get 20 or 30 lbs, you can just plug the switch connector back in, and it'll run normally. You might just buck up and use the freon with the UV dye (to show leaks with a uv light) and some leak sealant, in case it's a small enough leak for that to work. Good luck!
No you do not short the switch out to fill once the pressure from the can gets into the system it will triger the switch the only time you short the switch is to check if compressor works and then it just for a second...
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:51 PM
  #4  
tiwvr1's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 2
From: Elizabethtown, pa
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 5.2
Default

Yeah, u can get pressure into it with out shorting the switch. If it was empty for a while I would at least replace the reciever dryer, Im sure it is saturate with moisture by now. Look for oily stains on any ac component, that may be a leak. The condensor is a big one, very prone to damage. Looks like a big rad in front of the radiator.


Or..... You can prob save some money, rent a vaccume pump and manifold gauges, and check to see if it holds vaccume before you waste money on freon, if it wont hold vaccume it wont hold freon.

A shop would charge around 100 to vaccume, add dye, and freon for you.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:52 PM
  #5  
freegdr's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 38
From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

Originally Posted by tiwvr1
Yeah, u can get pressure into it with out shorting the switch. If it was empty for a while I would at least replace the reciever dryer, Im sure it is saturate with moisture by now. Look for oily stains on any ac component, that may be a leak. The condensor is a big one, very prone to damage. Looks like a big rad in front of the radiator.


Or..... You can prob save some money, rent a vaccume pump and manifold gauges, and check to see if it holds vaccume before you waste money on freon, if it wont hold vaccume it wont hold freon.

A shop would charge around 100 to vaccume, add dye, and freon for you.
great advice if youve never messed with ac
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2012 | 08:59 PM
  #6  
Bustedback's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 12,367
Likes: 23
From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
Default

You have to remember this is a 92, so it has R12 in it. Taking it to a shop will cost a bit more than one of the Walmart retrofit kits, but atleasr it will be done right.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2012 | 09:10 PM
  #7  
freegdr's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 38
From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

theres ways around r12 if you have or are ac smart
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 02:39 PM
  #8  
92XJGuy's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,448
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I found out about the R12 thing from a guy at a shop. I was looking for R12 charges, but it looks like you need a license to buy it. A family member of mine has the license to purchase it, so should I go that route?

Thanks guys
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 08:05 PM
  #9  
tiwvr1's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 2
From: Elizabethtown, pa
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 5.2
Default

I wouldnt go that route. R12 is super expensive. If there is a leak, u are going to regret putting r12 in. I think its like 200 a lb. Replace the reciever drier, replace all the orings you can get to, and put r134 fittings on it. Take it to a shop, have them vaccume and recharge it with r134.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
93_xjcherokee
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
25
Feb 27, 2023 05:43 AM
Kydude7
Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
7
Sep 20, 2015 06:35 AM
codykrr
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
9
Sep 18, 2015 01:27 PM
Mmll52
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
8
Sep 17, 2015 05:11 PM
mach3lude
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
17
Sep 10, 2015 02:34 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 AM.