94 xj 4.0 Failed NOx
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
94 xj 4.0 Failed NOx
I have a stock 1994 xj 4.0 aw4 with 113k on the clock that has failed the CA smog test for NOx at 15 and 25.
Vehicle passed smog in 2014, nox was about 20-30 ppm in the test.
2016 test went up to 700-800 ppm.
co2 o2 hc co no outside temp
2014 - 15mph/1690 14.7 0.19 8 0.01 29 80f
2014 - 25mph/1663 14.68 0.14 1 0.01 24
2016-1 15mph/1665 14.7 0.13 6 0.02 897 82f
2016-1 25mph/1633 14.7 0.13 1 0.01 800
2016-2 15mph/1644 14.76 0.03 7 0.02 1138 90f
2016-2 25mph/1623 14.76 0.02 5 0.02 971
The following work has been performed in response to the issue.
-Fixed intake gasket.
-Replaced cat and muffler, cat was bad, muffler had a restriction
did an initial test , still too high
-Replaced the plugs (champion 412)
-Replaced 02 sensor ngk/ntk unknown if existing sensor was bad but with bad cat and intake thought it was a good idea to swap it out
-Cleaned intake
-double checked spark wires
- took for two short drives and a 30 min free way run
- filled the tank with reg, aired up the tires, took the 300lbs of sh** off of the roof rack, coolant is topped of and coolant temp well within normal operating range.
-took the test and failed again, NOx is even higher now.
Stumped, jeep is running better than it ever has and it is failing emissions.
Fuel filter is about due for a change, been in use for 2 years.
Jeep does seem to run better with a full tank so the pump could be bad too.
Oil has low mileage on it but its been 6 months since i changed it.
Engine idle speeds: 700-800 warm; ~900 cold
I have a feeling it is something small and stupid, another user suggested colder plugs, I might try that.
Vehicle passed smog in 2014, nox was about 20-30 ppm in the test.
2016 test went up to 700-800 ppm.
co2 o2 hc co no outside temp
2014 - 15mph/1690 14.7 0.19 8 0.01 29 80f
2014 - 25mph/1663 14.68 0.14 1 0.01 24
2016-1 15mph/1665 14.7 0.13 6 0.02 897 82f
2016-1 25mph/1633 14.7 0.13 1 0.01 800
2016-2 15mph/1644 14.76 0.03 7 0.02 1138 90f
2016-2 25mph/1623 14.76 0.02 5 0.02 971
The following work has been performed in response to the issue.
-Fixed intake gasket.
-Replaced cat and muffler, cat was bad, muffler had a restriction
did an initial test , still too high
-Replaced the plugs (champion 412)
-Replaced 02 sensor ngk/ntk unknown if existing sensor was bad but with bad cat and intake thought it was a good idea to swap it out
-Cleaned intake
-double checked spark wires
- took for two short drives and a 30 min free way run
- filled the tank with reg, aired up the tires, took the 300lbs of sh** off of the roof rack, coolant is topped of and coolant temp well within normal operating range.
-took the test and failed again, NOx is even higher now.
Stumped, jeep is running better than it ever has and it is failing emissions.
Fuel filter is about due for a change, been in use for 2 years.
Jeep does seem to run better with a full tank so the pump could be bad too.
Oil has low mileage on it but its been 6 months since i changed it.
Engine idle speeds: 700-800 warm; ~900 cold
I have a feeling it is something small and stupid, another user suggested colder plugs, I might try that.
Last edited by get3coffinsready; 09-11-2016 at 02:45 PM.
#2
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
pita to diagnose a problem with this engine, always seems to run fine. thinking you would have to punch a hole through the block before you would notice something was off.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Racine, WI
Posts: 974
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
7 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
It may be something in the fuel delivery making it lean (failing pump, dirty injectors) and/or heavy carbon buildup in the cylinders. The latter is easy enough to clean out with a gentle water or Seafoam drip/spray into the intake while running (Google if you're not familiar so you know what you're doing). The former will require some troubleshooting/diagnosis.
Is your exhaust manifold cracked? Sometimes because of fancy physics the cracking will actually draw fresh air IN instead of leaking exhaust out. This gives the O2 sensor the wrong idea of what the engine is doing which leads to an incorrect air/fuel mix which can produce a number of problems/symptoms.
You shouldn't have to mess with non-factory spec plugs. They were chosen by design and worked for 20 years--there's no legitimate reason for you to have to use a different plug now.
What kind of cat did you get? Who makes it? Who sold it?
Is your exhaust manifold cracked? Sometimes because of fancy physics the cracking will actually draw fresh air IN instead of leaking exhaust out. This gives the O2 sensor the wrong idea of what the engine is doing which leads to an incorrect air/fuel mix which can produce a number of problems/symptoms.
You shouldn't have to mess with non-factory spec plugs. They were chosen by design and worked for 20 years--there's no legitimate reason for you to have to use a different plug now.
What kind of cat did you get? Who makes it? Who sold it?
#4
Seasoned Member
I went thru the same struggle for months. Someone told me the exhaust manifold. Couldn't believe it. Until FINALLY I checked.
Check your exhaust manifold. Do a smoke test or air test on it. I had the same problem. I epoxied up the cracks. Even had it welded on a used one. Problem is that the exhaust manifolds crack, and with hairline cracks.
I finally bought a new one. Installed. Passed with flying colors.
My air test. I ran my air line in the exhaust pipe, low psi, plugged up the gap in the hose and pipe. Felt for air at the manifold.. Yep. Sure were leaks. One major one I couldn't see. Then a bunch of small hairline cracks.
Check your exhaust manifold. My Cherokee has 280,000 on it. It was time for the exhaust manifold. I'm not the original owner so don't know if it had been replaced before.
=====================
Post back your results when you solve it.
Check your exhaust manifold. Do a smoke test or air test on it. I had the same problem. I epoxied up the cracks. Even had it welded on a used one. Problem is that the exhaust manifolds crack, and with hairline cracks.
I finally bought a new one. Installed. Passed with flying colors.
My air test. I ran my air line in the exhaust pipe, low psi, plugged up the gap in the hose and pipe. Felt for air at the manifold.. Yep. Sure were leaks. One major one I couldn't see. Then a bunch of small hairline cracks.
Check your exhaust manifold. My Cherokee has 280,000 on it. It was time for the exhaust manifold. I'm not the original owner so don't know if it had been replaced before.
=====================
Post back your results when you solve it.
Last edited by jmrec100; 09-11-2016 at 04:06 PM.
#5
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
picked up a pressure gauge and checked the fuel system. Pump primes the system fine, the regulator seems to work fine, pressure is fine at idle and when reving. After shutting off the engine, for 4.5-5 mins the preussure starts to drop, after 10 minutes, the pressure drops to under 10 pounds. I thought i heard misfire during the test. Going to see about pinching off the lines to isolate and see if their if some key magic for a misfire code.
#6
CF Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 1,206
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I went thru the same struggle for months. Someone told me the exhaust manifold. Couldn't believe it. Until FINALLY I checked. Check your exhaust manifold. Do a smoke test or air test on it. I had the same problem. I epoxied up the cracks. Even had it welded on a used one. Problem is that the exhaust manifolds crack, and with hairline cracks. I finally bought a new one. Installed. Passed with flying colors. My air test. I ran my air line in the exhaust pipe, low psi, plugged up the gap in the hose and pipe. Felt for air at the manifold.. Yep. Sure were leaks. One major one I couldn't see. Then a bunch of small hairline cracks. Check your exhaust manifold. My Cherokee has 280,000 on it. It was time for the exhaust manifold. I'm not the original owner so don't know if it had been replaced before. ===================== Post back your results when you solve it.
Last edited by PNWjeeper; 09-12-2016 at 09:24 PM.
Trending Topics
#9
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
#11
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
the air temperature sensor from crown is not threaded correctly, does anyone know who made the intake manifold air temperature sensor for the 4.0 or know of a replacement part that fits?
#13
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Wells IAT was a perfect fit i would say it fit better than the oem. Their coolant sensor looks almost identical the oe as well. Just need to see if it will pass the sniff test.
#14
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
It was the header. Used a smoke machine and a shop vac to blow smoke up the tail pipe when everything was cold. Pulled it out, shined a light through it and it lit up like a Christmas tree.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jmrec100
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
6
08-26-2016 11:19 AM
hillbilly slim
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
5
08-25-2016 07:53 PM
CCKen
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
3
08-22-2016 07:37 PM
tlapinski
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
8
08-20-2016 09:00 PM
TuPapi22
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
1
08-15-2016 03:09 PM
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)