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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Anyone got any info on a Renix header replacement?
Swap to a HO head?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Got one I can have?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Got one I can have?
Yea if you come to MI and pull it.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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You don't realize how tempting that is....
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Whoever wanted the installed pics, these come from my how to: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/je...91-98-a-80445/







This is where they crack most of the time. The pic of the sixth runner is where mine cracked the worst...almost all the way around.





As mentioned, the bottom bolts suck getting too, and BE SURE to use high temp thread lock on the flange bolts... trust me. I would know, and let me tell you that tightening those bolts by yourself even after pulling the airbox, brake booster hose, fuel line bracket, and one or two other things it is still a dog to do, especially alone. Thank God for multiple extensions and swivel joints.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
You don't realize how tempting that is....
To date, I don't think any Renix headers are made, and I think this is mainly due to the fact that the Renix head has different ports compared to 91+ 4.0's, and since the majority of people go after OBD I or II vehicles, I guess Renix headers just didn't have enough demand. Not dissing Renix or anything, just saying what I think caused the lack of a header. I could easily be wrong, and hell there could even be one hiding out there somewhere.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 1991Jeep_Man
To date, I don't think any Renix headers are made, and I think this is mainly due to the fact that the Renix head has different ports compared to 91+ 4.0's, and since the majority of people go after OBD I or II vehicles, I guess Renix headers just didn't have enough demand. Not dissing Renix or anything, just saying what I think caused the lack of a header. I could easily be wrong, and hell there could even be one hiding out there somewhere.


No, sir, they have been made.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee


No, sir, they have been made.
Really? Well damn, I have been proven wrong
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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Someone was selling a used one here a few weeks ago.

I should have bought the damn thing.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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i just might have a set of headers on mine according those photos. i could be wrong. i'm gonna go snap some pics and do some research.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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I recently installed an APN header and I like it. I noticed a slight bit more power, nothing major, and slightly deeper, smoother exhaust note. The header is very beefy and well made. It's true that a couple of the bolts are very hard to get to and I'd recommend picking up one of those sockets with the built in u-joint. A traditional u-joint adapter will not work, there is just not enough room behind the primary tubes. Your other option would be to just use a wrench on those bolts rather than a socket, which is what I had to do as I didn't have the fancy swivel socket. A couple different size extensions would also be handy in reaching the bottom bolts.

As far as I know the only company currently making a Renix header is Pacesetter. You can buy they from Summit, they are pricey, about $250. Dynomax used to make one but it is now out of production, same with a couple other companies I believe.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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Someone making a Renix header stopped making them.

So they were made, and then production stopped.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 11:36 PM
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thanks for the pics, that explains a lot for me.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:49 AM
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pacemaker makes headers for the renix i have seen them on a site or two if you look they are still available i think they were about 275
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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Are aftermarket headers normally the same length as stock manifolds are? Basically would I need to modify the exhaust pipe to compensate for any difference in length? Wondering if I should wait until I get my new exhaust before swapping this out.
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