xj_maniac_newb

Do you have blocks? because if YOU did a little researching yourself then you would realize that blocks are only bad if you get hollow aluminum crappy ones that will crack (rocky road blocks are made of sold steel, will never crack), or if you go over 2.5 inches or so. i PERSONALLY am running blocks and know many others who have them as well, some wheel alot and some hardly wheel at all (like me) neither I nor them have had problems with wheel hop, leaf spring breaking, or any of that crap. Also, how would a block cause angle issues any differently then any other kind of lift?

Please dont undermine other's statements unless you have properly done your research and/or have experience of you own

::flaming over::

Most of the hate behind blocks come from those who decide to put 4 inch blocks and their rear wheels bounce around when they hit the gas. I have seen a jeep on a solid slab of rock with all 4 wheels spinning and no wheel hop whatsoever. A block as small as a 1.5" will not even be noticed at all.

If anyone decides to flame me for what i have just said....go ahead, as long as you have actually had problems with blocks YOURSELF


and enjoytheride, didnt mean to call you out specifically. just tired of having everyone say that about blocks when most all of them have never had even one of those things happen

Enjoytheride

Nope, 4.5" lift leaf packs and 1.5" shackle.

Infidel_XJ

Blocks suck no matter what they are made of...get over it..... My advice to everyone, after 11 years of wheeling XJs is you get what you pay for. Cheap lifts = crappy rides. This is of course all to be taken into context with who you are.... If you're building a POS....go cheap....if you're building something worthwhile...take your time...save up...research.....and build it right the first time.

xj_maniac_newb

Cheap lifts=crappy rides? wow with that logic everyone on here should just go ahead and take all the suspension parts off their jeeps and go buy a $1000 lift just so they can meet your standards. Im sorry that we cant all go and afford whatever god lift that you have on your jeep, but if you're not gonna post an useful information then i suggest you just leave. As the OP said, he's looking for a cheap lift and if you have actually had blocks and had problems with them, then please enlighten us on why we shouldnt use blocks..


OP i apologize for gettin off topic like this, some people just like conflict

tmurr11

haha, thanks guys. its all good knowledge and something to think about and take into consideration. Im really only looking for cheap just for look, i dont plan on doing much extreme off-roading

Rock Toy

Look for a full leaf pack for a 3 inch lift. If you go with blocks or AAL you will end up hating the ride and could be replacing the rear springs. ( Oh, and when I was young and dumb I did run some 3 inch blocks and broke my 2nd leaf in the drivers side leaf pack. ) Maybe that is why guys that have done this for a few years hate AALs and blocks.

Infidel_XJ

no I have not and will not ever run blocks....I also don't load out with cheap ammo and sub par equipment when I head off compound....

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=XLK

There are plenty of inexpensive 2"-3" lifts that do not involve blocks. I'd say AAL over blocks all day long.... I'd even say coils spacers and shackles over blocks....

http://www.ironman4x4fab.com/XJ_Inventory.html

No one is saying that he needs to spend an *** ton of money....3.5" REs are only around $580 and I think both of us could agree that they are damn fine kits. The point is that instead of going the crappy route and regretting it later.....do it right the first time....

TMURR11........realize one thing. When you go on these forums, you're gonna deal with retards and pros....experts and novices.....talkers and wheelers. Take everything with a grain of salt and make a wise decision based on what you find. I go through this on the carbine forums as well...where everyone thinks they know it all..... I'm not calling myself a pro by any means. Just a guy giving my $.02.... I even looked at blocks when I bought my first XJ....but after searching...and going on a few runs with people that I knew were knowledgeable....I made my decision.

captainwoot

I am currently running aal + 2" "steel" block in the rear with no issues, I agree for the best ride and hard core wheeling blocks are not the best option, however everybody has their $$ limit and own expectations. I have run mine for 2 yrs now with no problems. (I am not a total noob either, I am a licenced tech 20+ yrs) so I agree with xj maniac, cheap lift, why not.
Good luck!

xj_maniac_newb

Thank you that was my point exactly.

And infidel_xj, grow up. There was reasoning behind what I said, and yes I do have 1500 posts. NO that doesnt mean i know it all, but it DOES mean that i have seen MANY people who bash on blocks and most all of them know nothing about them or have even thought of running them.

Also, the rocky road lift isnt the crappy route its called a Budget Boost, and a budget boost can be reused later on, on top of another lift. SO he could get a full 3 inch lift later on and turn it into a 5-6 inch lift.....thats what MANY people on this site do and thats why i recommend this lift to people. For 1. because the components are VERY well made and 2. because the parts can be reused to give more lift later on, For the time i've had my lift I havent regretted it at all, Since I went the "cheap route" as you say, I was able to get new wheels and tires with the money left over.... The lift i suggested will meet the OP's needs and will never sag so thats really why i suggested it.

And you noticed i said nothing to Rock Toy in reply to his post. That is because he has actually had blocks himself and had problems with them....so i cant argue with that. YOU on the otherhand....have not so all you have to go on is gossip and heresay, so your advice is worthless here.

Im sorry TMURR11 that your thread had to be turned into a pro/con of blocks war, and that this is your impression of what CF is like, as its not. Im going to make a sandwich goodevening to you all.

NH_Jeep_XJ

Once you include shocks on the Rocky ROAD 3" Lift, it's $299. placing pretty much in the park price wise with the other AAL kits mentioned from Rusty's and RC.

I feel that the advantage of the AAL setup is that you can move that AAL into future newer spring packs when the finances allow.

Similar to what this guy has done with his old XJ leaf springs....

http://fitchva.com/jeep/?p=37

Rock Toy

A three inch spring pack lift with shocks is 438.00 from Rusty's. If you looked around you maybe able to find one cheaper. If down the road you want to go to 4.5 or 5 inches buy a Tera-Flex BB about 120-130 and then add Iron Man control arms and SYE and driveshaft, an adjustable track bar and you've pretty much got it.

mpars

https://store.nexternal.com/fatbobs/...005-p7694.aspx
add some spacers up front and your lift is good.

Rock Toy

I can buy good 3 inch lift coils for under 200.00 so why use spacers if you are trying for flex and a good ride?

NH_Jeep_XJ

You will need shocks with a 3" Lift so that's why I pointed out the cost of the lifts W/Shocks included.

Remember the OP was talking about a $500. budget which I can relate to because I am in the same boat.

Ideally the full pack lifts are probably the best bet depending on the condition of your Leaf Springs, but also the most expensive initially.

But depending on what your doing with your Jeep, even new spring packs can sag eventually. Look at what happened with the stock springs for example.
The OP has stated that he isn't offroading much if at all. So he wouldn't be too hard on his springs and AAL.

I just checked with RUSTY'S and Rough Country 3" lifts, AAL and Full Packs and Rusty's shipping is twice as much as Rough Country's shipping charges.

Here are the figures I just pulled after pricing lifts and shipping via UPS Ground to Southern New Hampshire.


Rusty's 3" Lifts:

AAL w/stabilizer
Shipping $82.

Full Spring Packs Lift ONLY - No Stabilizer
Shipping $136.


Rough Country's 3" Lifts:

AAL w/stabilizer
Shipping $47.

Full Spring Packs Lift ONLY- No Stabilizer
Shipping $65.95


Rusty's does throw in the UBolts and a Brake Line extension bracket which saves you a few bucks.

But you could, as stated here buy the UBolts for less at Autozone anyway and not pay shipping on them !

Which makes sense if you don't wanna empty every pocket !!!