Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

1987 jeep camanche 4.0 no start problem :dunno:

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-05-2012, 02:41 PM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
thefarminkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: hicktown WA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1984
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8v6
Default 1987 jeep camanche 4.0 no start problem :dunno:

ok so I just bought a really nice jeep camanche for 500 bucks not running,the guy changed the coil, distributor,plug wires, and plugs i have spark and fuel so the cps is ok. I tdc #1 and it's it timing speck, if i hold the pedal to the floor it tries to start but just wont start running, any ideas?
Old 07-05-2012, 03:07 PM
  #2  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,870
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Yep. By holding the pedal to the floor you're in the "clear flood" mode and the injectors don't fire. The thing is probably flooding because the hose from the throttle body to the MAP sansor on the firewall is leaking somewhere or the MAP may be unplugged. First place to look.
Old 07-05-2012, 03:11 PM
  #3  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
thefarminkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: hicktown WA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1984
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8v6
Default

i have no idea what the MAP stands for (sorry) and yes you are correct it is getting flooded, plugs are really wet
Old 07-05-2012, 03:16 PM
  #4  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,870
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Follow the hose from your throttle body back towards the firewall. Directly behind the engine on the firewall is the MAP sensor. Has a 3-wire plug on it and a vacuum hose.

PS: It's spelled Comanche.
Old 07-05-2012, 03:27 PM
  #5  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
thefarminkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: hicktown WA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1984
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8v6
Default

no leaks what so ever in the line
Old 07-05-2012, 03:28 PM
  #6  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,870
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Is the electrical connector to the MAP plugged in tightly?
Old 07-05-2012, 03:34 PM
  #7  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
thefarminkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: hicktown WA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1984
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8v6
Default

yes and it is clean with no signs of corrosion
Old 07-05-2012, 04:46 PM
  #8  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
thefarminkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: hicktown WA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1984
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8v6
Default

could the MAP sensor be bad? all my grounds are good, i have a new cps coming tomorrow so i will see if that works but i doubt it.
Old 07-05-2012, 04:59 PM
  #9  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,870
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by thefarminkid
could the MAP sensor be bad? all my grounds are good, i have a new cps coming tomorrow so i will see if that works but i doubt it.
Could be the MAP. How do you know all the grounds are good?
Old 07-05-2012, 05:42 PM
  #10  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
thefarminkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: hicktown WA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1984
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8v6
Default

i cleaned all the main ones and by the dip stick and the one on the fire wall, anymore ideas?
Old 07-05-2012, 06:06 PM
  #11  
Member
 
Dan_Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: tracy ca
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4L
Default

does it have spark?
Old 07-05-2012, 06:22 PM
  #12  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,870
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by thefarminkid
i cleaned all the main ones and by the dip stick and the one on the fire wall, anymore ideas?
You may have no fuel pressure. Need to borrow/rent/buy a gauge to check the pressure at the rail. when you say you have spark, what color is it? Blue or orange?
Old 07-05-2012, 06:59 PM
  #13  
Member
 
Dan_Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: tracy ca
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4L
Default

Originally Posted by cruiser54
You may have no fuel pressure. Need to borrow/rent/buy a gauge to check the pressure at the rail. when you say you have spark, what color is it? Blue or orange?
the color doesn't matter just as long as there is spark coming from the plugs
Old 07-05-2012, 07:02 PM
  #14  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,870
Received 1,526 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Dan_Man
the color doesn't matter just as long as there is spark coming from the plugs
It does matter. An orange spark is weak and cannot fire a spark plug under compression inside a cylinder where a blue spark will.
Old 07-05-2012, 10:34 PM
  #15  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
thefarminkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: hicktown WA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1984
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8v6
Default

it is a very strong blue spark. I have very good fuel pressure, when i open the little valve on the rail it blows fuel out all over when you turn the key on and the motor turns over. SO IDK i have good fuel and spark but still no start it tries to start when i put the pedal to the floor but just wont take off????


Quick Reply: 1987 jeep camanche 4.0 no start problem :dunno:



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:02 AM.