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Old 09-13-2014, 08:28 AM
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^ I read it as a reference to Jim Carrey, not a forum member.

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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
^ I read it as a reference to Jim Carrey, not a forum member.
Me, too.
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It was in reference to Carrey.
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Whoops. Sorry of me Ken. Jim Kerry turns my stomach also. I'll pay closer attention in the future.
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I'm sure CCKen holds no grudge regarding that, D.

Gave it some thought that one actually. What I found the most striking was the "bluntness" in the reaction this time. Made me curious and wanting to ask why....but couldn't be bothered really. Maybe CCKen just felt like it and maybe Jim Carrey pushes hit button.
If, in my experience, CCKen's dislike towards a forum member is expressed (if at all), it is usually faaar more subtle to start off with, more a mind game, a forum version of psychological 'warfare', evolving over several posts, almost like fencing, chess or maybe just plain bare-fist -action (depending on the mental status of the opponent)....some posts even with (I have no doubt carefully thought over), words chosen to be open for several interpretations, leading to sometimes interesting misunderstandings and exchanges of thoughts and opinions....and when you read between the lines, or he meets an adversary with similar battle skills (in other words, he gets a bit tickled, challenged) then I think things get quite entertaining. In other words: the reaction will be nothing like what we've seen above.

So anyway, don't worry D, we're all good here. And yes, some things are better left ignored which extrapolates to several things in life.

Now, shall we all move back on topic, before some readers think this is some fuzzy interaction management analysis group?
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Originally Posted by Roler
"Don't change your ATF. Your transmission will fail soon after that. It's true. Because someone on the internet told someone else. Your transmission is used to the shavings and all the crud by now, and might suffer shock from fresh ATF. It might cost you your trans..!!!."

LOL

Sorry, I had to.

OK, if the advice wasn't clear yet; yes, that ATF (or what is once was) needs replacing. And mine looked like that too, and that was after 2x drain refill within 1000 km.
So, I looked into, did and then became a supporter of the "forward flush method". Clean, quick, and refreshing all ATF in a few minutes, rather than repeating the drain/refill procedure (which is perfectly fine, but draining only part of the fluid at a time and needs repeating several times). Using the trans's own pump, nothing aggressive or reversed shop-like flushed.

Let me know if you want info in that, more than happy to write up the steps.
Ive seen cars never move againg after complete fluid changes when fluid has gone unchanged for years.
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Ive seen cars never move againg after complete fluid changes when fluid has gone unchanged for years.

Is that after a plain drain and fill or a machine flush?
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Originally Posted by CCKen
Valvoline DEX/MERC is good, but other brands are good as well as long as the label says it conforms to Dexron-III and Mercon requirements. Do not use "Max Life" ATF.

What's bad about using the "Max Life" type ATF? How about "High Mileage" type ATF?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Kalali
What's bad about using the "Max Life" type ATF? How about "High Mileage" type ATF?
Thanks.
SOS is fine..

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Originally Posted by Kalali
Is that after a plain drain and fill or a machine flush?
I think he's screwing with ya....
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
What year XJ?
Good question.

I have an 85 with the A904 3sp auto and from reading up on those, Chrysler put out a service bulletin that said not to use Dex/Merc and only use ATF+ fluids because the Dex/Merc would damage the clutch materials. So it seems Dex/Merc for the AW4 and ATF+ if you have the old A904.
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Originally Posted by jedijeb
Good question.

I have an 85 with the A904 3sp auto and from reading up on those, Chrysler put out a service bulletin that said not to use Dex/Merc and only use ATF+ fluids because the Dex/Merc would damage the clutch materials. So it seems Dex/Merc for the AW4 and ATF+ if you have the old A904.
Your trans used regular Dex/Merc as delivered. Chrysler put out the same bulletin on the AW4. It is NOT recommended in the real world. Stick to the SOS.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Your trans used regular Dex/Merc as delivered. Chrysler put out the same bulletin on the AW4. It is NOT recommended in the real world. Stick to the SOS.
Good to know. Makes you wonder just what to believe from the factory reps these days.
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Originally Posted by Kalali
Is that after a plain drain and fill or a machine flush?
Complete drain. We used to drill a small hole in the torque converter then tap in a 1/8 brass plug after its clear for future drains ..Draining just whats in pan and new filter . Then repeat until fluid clears best and safest way to attempt this.
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If one is willing enough, one can pull the two cooler tubes at the quick disconnect couplings on the trans, as well as draining the oil pan, then let them drain away.

I did this only because I was replacing my cooler lines and couplings. I got nearly 6 quarts of ATF out of my AW4 doing this. Of course, the TC held its couple of quarts.


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