Airbag light on, horn not working cruise not working
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Airbag light on, horn not working cruise not working
1999 xj, reman engine, new exhaust. I do not remember if these issues were there before now. I had just bought it and it has been in the shop ever since for the new parts.
So I tried the jump of the horn and the horn works fine direct from the bat.
The cruise is after market I do believe as it is a single stick on left side of steering column.
Airbag light on on panel.
Now where the horn is supposed to to be pressed, it feels as if there is nothing there. So my first thought is that the clock spring is inop. However, with the aftermarket cruise, should I check anything else before tearing into the steering column? And if it is the clock spring, with an aftermarket cruise, should the new clock spring be with, or without cruise, ( I have never taken apart the column and worked on a clock spring.). Just want to make sure that since the cruise is not on front of steering wheel if that makes a difference?
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So I tried the jump of the horn and the horn works fine direct from the bat.
The cruise is after market I do believe as it is a single stick on left side of steering column.
Airbag light on on panel.
Now where the horn is supposed to to be pressed, it feels as if there is nothing there. So my first thought is that the clock spring is inop. However, with the aftermarket cruise, should I check anything else before tearing into the steering column? And if it is the clock spring, with an aftermarket cruise, should the new clock spring be with, or without cruise, ( I have never taken apart the column and worked on a clock spring.). Just want to make sure that since the cruise is not on front of steering wheel if that makes a difference?
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Clock spring. Not sure about your aftermarket CC but if all of this happened at once then I'm guessing the bad clock spring is somehow linked to your after market cruise and should be replaced with a clock spring that is identical to the one that has failed.
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I don't think that your aftermarket CC is connected with the clockspring. Have a look where the cables to the CC go! You don't say if the CC still works. If yes, it seems not to be connected to the clockspring, but the two failures (air bag light and horn) exactly show the clockspring problem. If you follow F1Addict's link it's easy to change the clockspring!
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Thanks you guys. I am having the xj painted, and the shop said they would run a code. Will the clock spring failure show up on a code? As for the cc, as I have not opened up the steering column yet to see where the cc wires lead to, I was just hope that a cc stick on the left side of the column, someone might know if the clock spring would be connected to it. I say it is aftermarket, as I thought all 1999 cc came on the steering wheel front face. It would save time in the XJ being down and ordering a new clock spring.
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Hi, I don't think there's a code showing clockspring failure. As the OEM CC is on the steering wheel, it's logical that it is fed by the clockspring circle. With an aftermarket CC this would make no sense. You still didn't say if the CC works! If yes, that shows that it is NOT fed by the clockspring.
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I agree to all the above, it's prob the clockspring. It's pretty easy to test with a voltmeter/continuity tester.
On a side note I have dozens of OEM cruise components for 97+: buttons for 97-98 & 99-01, clocksprings for both cruise and non cruise, and servos) all tested and functional. If you need anything let me know we can work out a price!
On a side note I have dozens of OEM cruise components for 97+: buttons for 97-98 & 99-01, clocksprings for both cruise and non cruise, and servos) all tested and functional. If you need anything let me know we can work out a price!
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I agree to all the above, it's prob the clockspring. It's pretty easy to test with a voltmeter/continuity tester.
On a side note I have dozens of OEM cruise components for 97+: buttons for 97-98 & 99-01, clocksprings for both cruise and non cruise, and servos) all tested and functional. If you need anything let me know we can work out a price!
On a side note I have dozens of OEM cruise components for 97+: buttons for 97-98 & 99-01, clocksprings for both cruise and non cruise, and servos) all tested and functional. If you need anything let me know we can work out a price!
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Had all those same issues, bought used clockspring (with warranty), rented steering wheel puller, changed it in about 30 mins, start to finish. All 3 work again. I paid 50 bucks on ebay. Make sure you get one with cruise, and if buying used, make sure theres a warranty from seller
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And those private sellers selling them on eBay may have a warranty, but returning stuff on eBay is not what it used to be, I usually just keep the item I bought.
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Ok, I just put a new clock spring in. The airbag light is now out. However, the horn and cruise control still do not work. As in the post above. Horn works at the horn. The cruise control was after market. The old clock spring did not have the cruise control wire. I put a clock spring that has the wire, I also installed the switches on the steering wheel. I did not disconnect the after market cruise control wire that came from the switch handle that was mounted on the steering console side area. So where would you begin trouble shooting this? New engine installed, and I have not checked fuses yet but I will. thanks
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Def check all the fuses. But if horn works at horn, and CC and horn aren't working, I'm going to say it's still your clockspring. Or whatever aftermarket part you have. What mix of aftermarket stuff do you have? I'm a little confused by that. OEM stuff is cheap; clockspring, buttons, and servo. That's all you need to get cruise working. Even if the jeep came from the factory without cruise all the wiring and provisions are there for it and it is unlikely they are damaged, all you need are those three things.
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Def check all the fuses. But if horn works at horn, and CC and horn aren't working, I'm going to say it's still your clockspring. Or whatever aftermarket part you have. What mix of aftermarket stuff do you have? I'm a little confused by that. OEM stuff is cheap; clockspring, buttons, and servo. That's all you need to get cruise working. Even if the jeep came from the factory without cruise all the wiring and provisions are there for it and it is unlikely they are damaged, all you need are those three things.
It may be a couple of issues. One I did not disconnect the old switches of the cruise in the steering column. As the old switches for the cruise was not hooked up to the clockspring. The wires are running into the console. My new clockspring came with the cruise wire. I bought the steering switches and installed them when I had the steering wheel off to fix the clockspring. As for the horn, the air bag feels like it is not firm enough to push the horn. It has been a while since I owned an xj, so I don't know if that is normal. Is there a way to test the airbag switch for the horn in that unit? One other thing.....I have the radio out and those harnesses are not connected...if that makes a difference
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As for the horn, the air bag feels like it is not firm enough to push the horn
I did not disconnect the old switches of the cruise in the steering column
The radio harnesses shouldn't have to do anything with your clockspring problems.
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Yes the tape is inside the clock spring. It's the "wiring" for the cruise switches, horn, and airbag.
And maybe I just can't read what you wrote properly, which is probably the case, but I'm still confused about what is OEM and what isn't in your setup.
Regardless, take out everything that's not OEM, and let us know what's left.
And maybe I just can't read what you wrote properly, which is probably the case, but I'm still confused about what is OEM and what isn't in your setup.
Regardless, take out everything that's not OEM, and let us know what's left.
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If you placed a clockspring with cruise control, there are three wires, the one in the middle is for the airbag module, one of the two others is for the horn and one for cruise control. As I mentioned above you can test the horn by holding the wire to ground.