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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:20 AM
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Picked up some doors
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by EZEARL
What brand alternator did get?
it is a factory installed 117a alternator that i had rebuilt.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:39 AM
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Good option.

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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DonP
we used belzona products at the paper mill I worked at. Often we would drill cracks and ream with drill so the inside of the hole was bigger than the outside. this product works up to 392°F. not sure about flex. Might want to call and talk to these folks.
http://www.belzona.com/en/products/1000/1813.aspx


My header at the collector is fine. But that seems to be a common occurrence . Guessing it comes from flexing and also vibration. Be nice if that product would work. I figure the guys needing something will check it out. Thanks.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by EZEARL
My header at the collector is fine. But that seems to be a common occurrence . Guessing it comes from flexing and also vibration. Be nice if that product would work. I figure the guys needing something will check it out. Thanks.
The rapid uneven hot and cold expansion and contraction is probably the greatest influence of fatigue on headers. Cast manifolds crack from this even though they have no flex, The fractures start from this then the flexing and vibration exacerbate these.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 10:16 AM
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Makes sense. That would definitely fatigue the metal.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
The rapid uneven hot and cold expansion and contraction is probably the greatest influence of fatigue on headers. Cast manifolds crack from this even though they have no flex, The fractures start from this then the flexing and vibration exacerbate these.
To add to that, another factor that comes into play is the leverage from the weight of the exhaust system. Worn hangers and an old trans mount can allow quite a bit of movement
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:02 AM
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Definitely a main stress point.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
To add to that, another factor that comes into play is the leverage from the weight of the exhaust system. Worn hangers and an old trans mount can allow quite a bit of movement
Absolutely, back in the hotrod days replacing headers was a regular maintenance service item because of all the physics working against them. They are a "perishable" part, even cast headers had issues. lol
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
To add to that, another factor that comes into play is the leverage from the weight of the exhaust system. Worn hangers and an old trans mount can allow quite a bit of movement
I wonder if hard mounting the collector to the block with a bracket would help? Probably wreck havoc on the rest of the system. I think they might actually need this flexibility and give because like you say the engine moves independent of the body and frame.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Guess it's just the nature of the beast. As common a problem as it is you would think by now if there was a solution some aftermarket manufacturer would have solved it. Even the best that's out now crack.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by EZEARL
Guess it's just the nature of the beast. As common a problem as it is you would think by now if there was a solution some aftermarket manufacturer would have solved it. Even the best that's out now crack.
I think so, just one of those regular replacement items. lol I often wonder if these would have been better off with an old school cast manifold.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 12:02 PM
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Or maybe a two piece header. Would make for smaller collectors. Probably not enough room though.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EZEARL
Or maybe a two piece header. Would make for smaller collectors. Probably not enough room though.
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EZEARL
Or maybe a two piece header. Would make for smaller collectors. Probably not enough room though.
From what I have seen here some of the newer ones with the inline 6 do have two piece headers and run two pipes into a single further back. Tell you what, I would be splitting these into duals!

Back in the day we used to take cast manifolds and cut and weld them into what we called "spit manifold" dual exhaust systems. I don't know if it was because of the firing order or what, but they really sounded GOOD! lol
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