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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rgniady81
Ok folks need some help. I have a bone stock '99 XJ that I want to put a 2" shackle/spacer lift on.

I only intend to run 30" tires (thinking by 9.5).

I like my stock wheels (they were some kind of upgrade from the factory, just gonna paint them black). They are 15x7. I know a 30x9.5x15 will fit but since I'm not going up real high I wanted to accomplish a little wider stance.

So the question is...should I stick with the stock wheels, go with 30x9.5 and add the 1.25" spidertrax wheel spacers to push them out? Should I be worried that the spacers will cause fit issues?

Or maybe move up to a larger wheel, 15x8 and run 30x10.5.

Whatcha think?

Full disclaimer this Jeep will never be punished. I live in a south Louisiana so there's no wheeling. We tow the boat to the lake and take the Jeep to go hiking so really this is just to get the look I want.
Ok so here's what I tell everyone that wants to run 30s. Why? Let me explain a bit why you should go with a different size, namely a 235/75r15. There are a few reasons. First, 30s and 235s measure out to nearly the same size. 30s don't actually measure to 30 inches. More about 29.6 inches. 235s are are bout 29 to 29.3 inches in some brands. Next reason, there are bout really ALOT more options in a 235. The last reason and probably the best, is that 235s are cheaper. You will get a tire that is nearly the same size as a 30x9.50 or whatever, for less money. Just my thoughts. I have 235s now and will either get another set when mine wear out or jump to 31s. To heck with 30s haha their dying out fast.

Next thing. Some here say they run spacers perfectly fine. But alot will also say they are dangerous. You said you like your rims now. But there are alot of nice rims thatv you can get with the proper backspace to achieve a wider stance. Many as low as $40 each. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 07:51 PM
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When i purchased my heep it had 235/75 tires with a 2" shackle and spacer with the same wheel spacers you mentioned.
Very similar setup that worked well.
The spider trax spacers are hub eccentric and have a really good fit.
I say if you really want to keep the stock wheel then it is a good choice.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Constantine


When i purchased my heep it had 235/75 tires with a 2" shackle and spacer with the same wheel spacers you mentioned.
Very similar setup that worked well.
The spider trax spacers are hub eccentric and have a really good fit.
I say if you really want to keep the stock wheel then it is a good choice.
Those are 235s? Same setup as me and think it looks perfect on 2 inches
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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I have my new coils in and UCA and LCA's installed and need to be torqued. What are the torque specs for the 4 uppers and 4 lower bolts.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
Those are 235s? Same setup as me and think it looks perfect on 2 inches
Yes they are 235's.
I agree they are the perfect size for a 2".
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 08:46 PM
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Constantine, yeah I think I might just do that. I had spidertrax spacers on an '07 Wrangler and had no issues. Just mad sure I checked them from time to time. The picture you posted, is that with the spacers on?
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Constantine
Yes they are 235's.
I agree they are the perfect size for a 2".
I currently have 30x9.5 BFG's on a 3 inch (likely sagged to around 2")

They fit fine with no rubbing or trimming, even fully flexed they don't rub.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by smartmike
I have my new coils in and UCA and LCA's installed and need to be torqued. What are the torque specs for the 4 uppers and 4 lower bolts.
Factory specs via the Haynes manual.

Suspension Arm Upper
Front Nut . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74 N·m (55 ft. lbs.)
Rear Nut . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89 N·m (66 ft. lbs.)
Suspension Arm Lower
Front Nut . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 115 N·m (85 ft. lbs.)
Rear Nut . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 115 N·m (85 ft. lbs.)
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:04 PM
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I'm not a fan of wheel spacers. In my opinion, it adds an extra point of failure while accomplishing the same thing as a set of aftermarket wheels, for about the same price.

That said, many people do use spacers without a problem. If you're going to use them because you like your factory wheels, the important thing is to buy a good brand. Spidertrax is the only one I personally recommend.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LACK
I currently have 30x9.5 BFG's on a 3 inch (likely sagged to around 2")

They fit fine with no rubbing or trimming, even fully flexed they don't rub.
They fit fine because they aren't much larger then 235s haha. Constantine tires probably look like the same size to your 30s unless you put them close together. Less then half an inch difference total and a quarter inch extra ground clearance. All me and him were saying is that 235s are about the same as 30s but cheaper and more selection
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
They fit fine because they aren't much larger then 235s haha. Constantine tires probably look like the same size to your 30s unless you put them close together. Less then half an inch difference total and a quarter inch extra ground clearance. All me and him were saying is that 235s are about the same as 30s but cheaper and more selection
Oh no doubt, I was just confirming that running that size tire is a non-issue. I agree with you guys on the 235's. Only reason I'm running these tires is because thats how I bought the jeep.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rgniady81
Constantine, yeah I think I might just do that. I had spidertrax spacers on an '07 Wrangler and had no issues. Just mad sure I checked them from time to time. The picture you posted, is that with the spacers on?
Yes the spacers are on in that pic.
Had just right clearance in all situations.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LACK
Oh no doubt, I was just confirming that running that size tire is a non-issue. I agree with you guys on the 235's. Only reason I'm running these tires is because thats how I bought the jeep.
Oh of course. I just despise 30s man haha. If your looking for a larger tire you really just need to go to 31s. At the shop I work at, there are so many people wanting to go from 235s to 30s and I have to explain 235s are better. 235s at extremely common on not only xjs but also many other other mid sized SUV's and small trucks. Blazers, Rangers, Nissan and others. So people come in saying they heard about 30s and Yada Yada haha. There's just no benefit to paying more for them over 235s.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by xjohnmatrix
Can someone send me a link, I've been on their site but I can only select between Grand Cherokee and Wrangler kits for some reason.
Originally Posted by Martlor13
Their site doesn't list an xj. Here's a dealer.

http://dpgoffroad.com/productcategor...spension-kits/
Here's another

http://www.quadratec.com/products/76090_800.htm

Awful lot of coin to pay for a 2" lift, IMO. If it were me, I'd just grab a set of s10 or dakota springs and mix n match until I got the 2" I was looking for. Then, I'd get a set of ACOS coil spacers for a couple hundred bucks (they're adjustable).

Check this thread for other ideas that'll save ya some money.

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/bud...herokee-58797/

Originally Posted by Rgniady81
Ok folks need some help. I have a bone stock '99 XJ that I want to put a 2" shackle/spacer lift on.

I only intend to run 30" tires (thinking by 9.5).

I like my stock wheels (they were some kind of upgrade from the factory, just gonna paint them black). They are 15x7. I know a 30x9.5x15 will fit but since I'm not going up real high I wanted to accomplish a little wider stance.

So the question is...should I stick with the stock wheels, go with 30x9.5 and add the 1.25" spidertrax wheel spacers to push them out? Should I be worried that the spacers will cause fit issues?

Or maybe move up to a larger wheel, 15x8 and run 30x10.5.

Whatcha think?

Full disclaimer this Jeep will never be punished. I live in a south Louisiana so there's no wheeling. We tow the boat to the lake and take the Jeep to go hiking so really this is just to get the look I want.
Originally Posted by Martlor13
Ok so here's what I tell everyone that wants to run 30s. Why? Let me explain a bit why you should go with a different size, namely a 235/75r15. There are a few reasons. First, 30s and 235s measure out to nearly the same size. 30s don't actually measure to 30 inches. More about 29.6 inches. 235s are are bout 29 to 29.3 inches in some brands. Next reason, there are bout really ALOT more options in a 235. The last reason and probably the best, is that 235s are cheaper. You will get a tire that is nearly the same size as a 30x9.50 or whatever, for less money. Just my thoughts. I have 235s now and will either get another set when mine wear out or jump to 31s. To heck with 30s haha their dying out fast.

Next thing. Some here say they run spacers perfectly fine. But alot will also say they are dangerous. You said you like your rims now. But there are alot of nice rims thatv you can get with the proper backspace to achieve a wider stance. Many as low as $40 each. Just my 2 cents.
x2 on this. And I wouldn't run the spacers. If you're going to, use Spidertrax as others suggested or Alloy USA. I had 235/75s on 15x8s w/ 3.75 backspacing and they looked great. Never rubbed...well... never WOULD'VE rubbed if my passenger fender was installed correctly. Then I swapped over to 31s on stock TJ wheels and trimmed fenders. The "stance" was plenty wide enough.






235/75r15s on American Racing 15x8 Baja w/ 3.75" bs



235/75r15 on Pacer 15x8 D-Windows w/ 4" bs



31x10.5r15 on TJ Canyons. 15x8 w/ 4.5" bs
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Old Dec 2, 2016 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by xjohnmatrix
Cannot, for the life of me, find a lift package somewhere around 2 inches with a new leaf pack instead of add-a-leafs or shackles. My current leaf springs are totally busted and my front coils don't look pretty either. 3 inches+ is not my style personally, and I don't feel like buying everything a-la-carte at a higher price.

Just looking for a suspension package with coils, full springs, shocks, and all the equipment needed between 1.5-2.5 inches.

Do any companies offer such a rarity?
This would be my suggestion.
http://zoneoffroad.com/zone-offroad-...erokee/j21-j22
We sell these often and it will give you good room for a set of 31's without the extra mods from going taller. We can ship you the kit out no problem. I agree with keeping it mild yet replacing all the aged and sagging parts. We can offer you that kit at $500 shipped. Give us a call.
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