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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 11:38 AM
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I've got a 98 XJ with an unknown motor in it ( I was told it was a 2000 XJ motor but I'm not too sure. It has an 0650 head).

It has what sounds to me like wicked lifter tick.

Every 300 miles or so I need to add more coolant.

If I change the oil the tick goes away for 50-100 miles.

There are no real signs of coolant in the oil other than the oil seems to lose viscosity (which is what I believe is causing the tick). No foaming or milky appearance, and no oil in the coolant.

I was just going to drop in a new motor from my other 98 with a bad trans but it's currently about 6 hours south from my house so I want to be sure of what I'm getting into before I have my brother-in-law bring it up for me. I already have an entire engine gasket kit and I could get a JY head or have him pull the head from my other Jeep instead of towing my whole jeep up.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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She's been sitting for over 6 months but I started her up today. It's now sounding more like rod knock and theres some white smoke coming out her backside. Also smells like it's running extremely rich.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 12:41 PM
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heres a video of it.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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And another one.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 01:16 PM
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From your vid the oil pressure looks good..have you done a compression check? how about have you checked to see if the flex plate is making the noise, kinda sounds like that. Here is a link https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/ho...ocking-125547/

try to let the jeep run a little to see if the exhaust clears up, might be just condensation in the pipe..

The 2000-2001 XJ with the 0331 head had the problem with cracking.. so if its not the 0331 like you say check the flex plate, do a compression check. It wont hurt to take the valve cover off and take a look at the rocks. after doing all the checks and it still is doing it.. I would pull oil pan and take a look to see if anything is in the pan or if something dont look right or feel right after trying to wiggle stuff,,you know..lol

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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 01:51 PM
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Dumajones, thanks a TON! I'm not sure how I missed checking the flex plate bolts as this was a problem on another jeep of mine and on my friends. I haven't done a compression check yet but I'll try and do it today. The Jeep has been sitting for over 6 months so maybe that's the white smoke. I'll have to get a new battery as the one in it is shot from sitting(I tried charging it twice and it won't hold a charge more than a day or two).
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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If it is not the flex plate pull the pan and see if one of the piston skirts broke off. It happened on my 98 TJ and sounded like a real bad lifter tick or a light rod knock. I changed out that piston and re-ringed the engine and put new rod bearings in it and it ran like new.
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Dumajones, thanks a TON! I'm not sure how I missed checking the flex plate bolts as this was a problem on another jeep of mine and on my friends. I haven't done a compression check yet but I'll try and do it today. The Jeep has been sitting for over 6 months so maybe that's the white smoke. I'll have to get a new battery as the one in it is shot from sitting(I tried charging it twice and it won't hold a charge more than a day or two).
Not a prob,, that's what we are here for.. When you get the jeep going and the noise is gone (crossing fingers) Take the Jeep for a long nice calm drive get it to temp and drive for about 45mins to get any moisture out of the motor/oil from it sitting for a while.
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It's not looking like the flex plate bolts. I re-torqued all of them and none seemed loose. Waiting for my battery to get enough charge to start and see. Should I be able to turn the flex plate with just a wrench? When I turn it I hear air leaking from somewhere which I'm assuming is not a good thing.
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Originally Posted by DrShaggford
It's not looking like the flex plate bolts. I re-torqued all of them and none seemed loose. Waiting for my battery to get enough charge to start and see. Should I be able to turn the flex plate with just a wrench? When I turn it I hear air leaking from somewhere which I'm assuming is not a good thing.
HMM..lame,, I would pull the oil pan might be a skirt like dans98xj has suggested..
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Yeah, it's looking like that's what I might need to do.
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Here's a question. If I don't know what year my motor is, how do I choose the correct piston? The head casting is 0650 which could be from 91-2000. The guy I bought it from said it was either a 2000 or 2001 but it has a distributor and a Renix oil filter adapter.
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Originally Posted by DrShaggford
Here's a question. If I don't know what year my motor is, how do I choose the correct piston? The head casting is 0650 which could be from 91-2000. The guy I bought it from said it was either a 2000 or 2001 but it has a distributor and a Renix oil filter adapter.
This pic shows that the build date code in on the left side of the motor look there.

from Cruiser54's pics




Here is a pic of my number on my 2000..


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Originally Posted by DrShaggford
It's not looking like the flex plate bolts. I re-torqued all of them and none seemed loose.
You can't get to it without removing the transmission.
not my pic
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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[QUOTE=Turbo X_J;3231358]You can't get to it without removing the transmission.
not my pic

I pulled the inspection plate and torqued the 4 bolts on the plate. I'm now more concerned because I was able to turn the flex plate with just a wrench without much effort.
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