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FS[MidAtl]: Hesco Supercharger
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An intake tube will fit over the valve cover, seen it many of times. Look up pictures of guys who run a Hummer style snorkel at the passenger side of the wiper cowl, they run 3" intake tube over the valve cover at the firewall.
I did the measuring, the body of the supercharger is 1/4" SHORTER than my current throttle body elbow sitting on a throttle body spacer, and my current intake doesn't hit the hood at all. The blower and adapter plates measured 7.5" and my intake elbow and tb spacer was 7.75" from the intake manifold up. So I know the blower body will fit, my only concern from day 1 was the blower pulley, since the hood angles down, you lose clearance the closer you get to the radiator. And it has to extend all the way to the belt. It's hard to look at how much room you have when closing the hood, but it would be tight.
So here are my ideas if the pulley does not fit. Right now, my hood vents sit farther apart than most peoples here. They are aftermarket, not sure which brand, but if I got another used JY hood, I could move the vents more inward, cut the hood, mount the vents, and position them right above where the blower pulley would be, essentially giving me another 1-2" of clearance. Technically yes, it's cutting the hood, but no it's not leaving it wide open for the elements to have easy access to the engine bay. My current vents don't let any water or garbage in at all, so I think this is a feasible idea if the blower doesn't fit. I may do a test fit this weekend to see how close it is.
ah I gotcha. I don't use the app on my phone, just the regular site. It's a bit harder at times, but everything works as it should.
I'm lost on why people say you can't run an intake over the back of the valve cover? It's been done many times on Cherokee's. Here's a link to a guy who did it with no clearance issues, besides cutting the hood pad, which I don't even have lol.
http://www.b2xj.com/write-ups/onboard-air-battery-swap
I thought about the stroker as well, but for the ease of installation of a blower compared to a whole motor, this setup is VERY cost saving in terms of labor. Maybe it's just me, but I rather spend a few hours installing this than a few days installing a new motor. That savings alone is worth the blower route. Plus you don't need anything more than hand tools, while with a motor swap you need a cherry picker($$) and an assortment of other tools that aren't on the cheap side. Isn't a new stroker motor more expensive than this blower price?
It's not, and mods like forced induction and stroker motors aren't necessary for our rigs either, so the people who look into these are usually looking for the next big mod to set their rig out from the others. My stock 4.0 has no issues in any trail, as far as power requirements, and I'm turning 35's on 4.88's and lockers. It's usually just the wow factor of having a stroker XJ or a blown XJ . But compared to the $5000+ you would be invested if buying this new, $2300 is a good deal.
And the HP gains are 50-70 HP from 5-6psi. With a twin screw supercharger, these power gains would also be seen down low, in wheeling RPM's since these style blowers are torque monsters. So it wouldn't be for just accelerating onto the highway, it would be very functional in the trails. This is why I went with the blower route over a turbo setup. I did a lot of research on turbo XJ's and IMO, they aren't good for trails. Spool RPM is too high and the power curve would be too aggressive and blow out the tires when trying to ease over obstacles in the trails. I have a good bit of experience with turbo's on my big turbo, cammed SRT-4, but it didn't seem like a good idea to slap one on an XJ or trail rig.
I wasnt meaning to compare the stroker to a blower... I was talking to stroke mine AND charge it... My MJ is soon to be on road only i think and i want to show it... The XJ is about done and finally turning its own tires again with the new axles... But i dunno if i would want turbo, supercharger, or just throw some NOS at it...
Sorry this is your ad so ill stop talkin about my thoughts lol...
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U have problens with people saying they wont fit over the valve cover because u keep saying the BACK of the cover when we are talking.abiut a Tj which is across the middle... lol... Member that hood slants till radiator thing u was talkin? if.it fits great! personally if i spent that id just take the dang hood OFF... Lol...
I wasnt meaning to compare the stroker to a blower... I was talking to stroke mine AND charge it... My MJ is soon to be on road only i think and i want to show it... The XJ is about done and finally turning its own tires again with the new axles... But i dunno if i would want turbo, supercharger, or just throw some NOS at it...
Sorry this is your ad so ill stop talkin about my thoughts lol...
I wasnt meaning to compare the stroker to a blower... I was talking to stroke mine AND charge it... My MJ is soon to be on road only i think and i want to show it... The XJ is about done and finally turning its own tires again with the new axles... But i dunno if i would want turbo, supercharger, or just throw some NOS at it...
Sorry this is your ad so ill stop talkin about my thoughts lol...
And I come from performance cars, having owned a N2o mustang, blown cobra, and now an SRT-4. All having a good bit of work done to them, so I have a decent bit of experience with all forms of forced induction, but I can't even begin to think why anyone would think a turbo or N2o(not NOS Vin Diesel lol) would work well on a Jeep Cherokee? Those power adders would be God awful in the trails, leaving a blower, twin screw specifically, to be the best option when wanting to boost something. Think about it, ever ridden in an aftermarket turbo vehicle? My SRT for example, it's a freakin light switch, no power or all power. Add a much later spool than a blower and it's a recipie for disaster in the trails. When you're needing just a little more power to overcome an obstacle, you give a little more gas until you're over it, but in a turbo XJ's case you give a little more gas, let the turbo lag fade off and you're stuck spinng the tires and getting no where. A turbo is too aggressive fore the trails. N2o is the same concept. Who wants a 50-75 hp increase for 10 seconds when you also HAVE to be at WOT? Thats just asking to break something. Very rarely do I ever go WOT, our trucks dont need that kimd of throttle, when max torque is seen at less tha. 2k rpm. All this leaves a blower for the end result. The very low rpm boost it can make leads people to want this form of boost for their rigs. They are torque mosters and can ease in and out of boost gradually, even at part throttle.
Granted this is all assuming people are using their Jeeps for what they were intended for.
Just my thoughts on forced induction for our Jeeps. No hard feelings or trying to argue.
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I don't mind, I'm leaning towars keeping it now. Guess you didn't click on the link I posted showing an intake run over the center of the valve cover j a cherokee. It's possible and there is more room than you think. I started looking at metal and fiberglass cowls on jegs last night too see what was out there. I don't want to run no hood or have a hole in it, as mine drives the the road quite a bit and doesn't fit in the garage. I still yave my fingers crossed that it'll fit under my hood vents.
And I come from performance cars, having owned a N2o mustang, blown cobra, and now an SRT-4. All having a good bit of work done to them, so I have a decent bit of experience with all forms of forced induction, but I can't even begin to think why anyone would think a turbo or N2o(not NOS Vin Diesel lol) would work well on a Jeep Cherokee? Those power adders would be God awful in the trails, leaving a blower, twin screw specifically, to be the best option when wanting to boost something. Think about it, ever ridden in an aftermarket turbo vehicle? My SRT for example, it's a freakin light switch, no power or all power. Add a much later spool than a blower and it's a recipie for disaster in the trails. When you're needing just a little more power to overcome an obstacle, you give a little more gas until you're over it, but in a turbo XJ's case you give a little more gas, let the turbo lag fade off and you're stuck spinng the tires and getting no where. A turbo is too aggressive fore the trails. N2o is the same concept. Who wants a 50-75 hp increase for 10 seconds when you also HAVE to be at WOT? Thats just asking to break something. Very rarely do I ever go WOT, our trucks dont need that kimd of throttle, when max torque is seen at less tha. 2k rpm. All this leaves a blower for the end result. The very low rpm boost it can make leads people to want this form of boost for their rigs. They are torque mosters and can ease in and out of boost gradually, even at part throttle.
Granted this is all assuming people are using their Jeeps for what they were intended for.
Just my thoughts on forced induction for our Jeeps. No hard feelings or trying to argue.
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I don't HAVE to sell it, would just like to get some long arms on my rig as well as better shafts in my D30 and 8.8. But if it doesn't sell, you'll see an install thread this summer.