To Winch Or Not To Winch?
MJ>XJ
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From: Griffin, G.A.
Year: 1990
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0 I6
Originally Posted by jeepster99
No your not wrong it is a good idea to have it on there but it seemed like he didn't really wanna spend much money so he would be able to get away with a hijack...75 bucks plus about 50 to 75 on straps at a swap meet...that's my opinion and he can put the jack anywhere he wants and if he keeps it in his truck then its not out in the rain or mud or snow which reduces rust and wear and tear
Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
lol... A hi lift jack is good to have... But he didnt ask about all this other stuff your throwing into the mix... Does it work yes... Is it safe? I wouldnt say so... Is the winch worth it? Duh... He didnt ask about snow...
Originally Posted by ADK_XJ
Haha, I do love a thread with both ends of the spectrum on a topic. When I posted the original question I knew I was going to get a lot of opinions and that's what I was looking for.
Seems like this whole $1,000 thing is a major sticking point and, since I was more interested in the amount people use their winches and in what scenarios, we can basically assume that I overshot the mark on what it might cost. I was looking at bumpers that jumped up significantly in cost with a build in carrier and then I was figuring a solid, quality winch if I were to get one...so, it's probably a more affordable upgrade then I figured. No worries.
Anyway, appreciate all the input so far - wasn't intended to be the-all-to-end-all of winch discussions but I'm trying to plan effectively for future purchases and I sure ain't made of money. Lots of good input to that point and it seems like - if anything - the receiver mount is going to be my approach in the future.
Seems like this whole $1,000 thing is a major sticking point and, since I was more interested in the amount people use their winches and in what scenarios, we can basically assume that I overshot the mark on what it might cost. I was looking at bumpers that jumped up significantly in cost with a build in carrier and then I was figuring a solid, quality winch if I were to get one...so, it's probably a more affordable upgrade then I figured. No worries.
Anyway, appreciate all the input so far - wasn't intended to be the-all-to-end-all of winch discussions but I'm trying to plan effectively for future purchases and I sure ain't made of money. Lots of good input to that point and it seems like - if anything - the receiver mount is going to be my approach in the future.
MJ>XJ
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From: Griffin, G.A.
Year: 1990
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0 I6
If its hitch mounted u can and I have a hard cover for my warn... They also make canvas style... Weather isnt a issue... Most hi lifts are mounted outside anyways...
Because it assumes that people always wheel within range of a cell phone tower.
Responsible wheeling means you are responsible for your own recovery should the need arise.
Do you need one if your stuck in a mud hole on Cousin Clem's pig farm? Probably not.
Do you need one if your on a back country trip hundreds of miles from a paved road? darn tootin' ya do.
Responsible wheeling means you are responsible for your own recovery should the need arise.
Do you need one if your stuck in a mud hole on Cousin Clem's pig farm? Probably not.
Do you need one if your on a back country trip hundreds of miles from a paved road? darn tootin' ya do.
Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
Because it assumes that people always wheel within range of a cell phone tower.
Responsible wheeling means you are responsible for your own recovery should the need arise.
Do you need one if your stuck in a mud hole on Cousin Clem's pig farm? Probably not.
Do you need one if your on a back country trip hundreds of miles from a paved road? darn tootin' ya do.
Responsible wheeling means you are responsible for your own recovery should the need arise.
Do you need one if your stuck in a mud hole on Cousin Clem's pig farm? Probably not.
Do you need one if your on a back country trip hundreds of miles from a paved road? darn tootin' ya do.
Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
I go alone quite often.
I have a winch, tools, CB, cell phone, spare parts, straps, hi-lift, cold weather gear, extra food and water.
Would I ever go without those?
No.
I have a winch, tools, CB, cell phone, spare parts, straps, hi-lift, cold weather gear, extra food and water.
Would I ever go without those?
No.
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From: Stafford Va
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
I go alone quite often.
I have a winch, tools, CB, cell phone, spare parts, straps, hi-lift, cold weather gear, extra food and water.
Would I ever go without those?
No.
I have a winch, tools, CB, cell phone, spare parts, straps, hi-lift, cold weather gear, extra food and water.
Would I ever go without those?
No.
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From: Capital Region, NY
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
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Year: 2000 Ltd.
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
I think it really depends on what you want to do. I don't have a winch (yet) and when I wheel (couple times I've gone I've been alone) I do it accordingly. If there's a spot I think there could be a good chance of getting stuck in, I turn around. That's not going to always save me though, I once got a Chevy Traverse stuck on the side of a mountain in NV, but since there wasn't anything to anchor to, a winch wouldn't have helped. Back home if I get stuck I would rather have a hi-lift than nothing. I don't think using a hi-lift for winching (when setup as they are designed for winching) is any more dangerous than trying to work on a rig held up by a hi-lift. Is a winch better, definitely. Is it also multiple times the cost, definitely.
If your stuck with the nearest anchor point 128 ft away, you're probably hosed anyway because you don't have more than 100 ft of cable on the <$400 winch to work with. If you have people that you might roll down the hill on top of, I'm sure they would be willing to loan you their recovery straps to get a long enough line, even with a hi-lift. lol
So ultimately it comes down to what kind of wheeling you do or plan to do, and how much risk you're willing to take for a given amount of money you want to spend on convenience. If you don't mind more headache to save money, get a hi-lift and a section of cable to keep in the back as a leader. If you have the money for the winch, go that route. I would go with something though, as others have said you should have SOME means of getting yourself out of a bind.
Personally, I'm saving for a winch that will be mounted on a hitch receiver to have the versatility of front or rear pulls. I have the hitches and cradle, just need the winch and wiring. If I had rock sliders I would have the hi-lift but right now I don't have any jack points to use a hi-lift on, so it's more worth it for me to save the money for a winch. While I would like a winch, I don't get an opportunity to wheel more than like twice a year and I usually have to go by myself when I do. That said, I go very easy and don't attempt stuff that will get me into trouble. I don't have to go super technical to have a lot of fun.
If your stuck with the nearest anchor point 128 ft away, you're probably hosed anyway because you don't have more than 100 ft of cable on the <$400 winch to work with. If you have people that you might roll down the hill on top of, I'm sure they would be willing to loan you their recovery straps to get a long enough line, even with a hi-lift. lol
So ultimately it comes down to what kind of wheeling you do or plan to do, and how much risk you're willing to take for a given amount of money you want to spend on convenience. If you don't mind more headache to save money, get a hi-lift and a section of cable to keep in the back as a leader. If you have the money for the winch, go that route. I would go with something though, as others have said you should have SOME means of getting yourself out of a bind.
Personally, I'm saving for a winch that will be mounted on a hitch receiver to have the versatility of front or rear pulls. I have the hitches and cradle, just need the winch and wiring. If I had rock sliders I would have the hi-lift but right now I don't have any jack points to use a hi-lift on, so it's more worth it for me to save the money for a winch. While I would like a winch, I don't get an opportunity to wheel more than like twice a year and I usually have to go by myself when I do. That said, I go very easy and don't attempt stuff that will get me into trouble. I don't have to go super technical to have a lot of fun.
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From: Griffin, G.A.
Year: 1990
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0 I6
I think it really depends on what you want to do. I don't have a winch (yet) and when I wheel (couple times I've gone I've been alone) I do it accordingly. If there's a spot I think there could be a good chance of getting stuck in, I turn around. That's not going to always save me though, I once got a Chevy Traverse stuck on the side of a mountain in NV, but since there wasn't anything to anchor to, a winch wouldn't have helped. Back home if I get stuck I would rather have a hi-lift than nothing. I don't think using a hi-lift for winching (when setup as they are designed for winching) is any more dangerous than trying to work on a rig held up by a hi-lift. Is a winch better, definitely. Is it also multiple times the cost, definitely.
If your stuck with the nearest anchor point 128 ft away, you're probably hosed anyway because you don't have more than 100 ft of cable on the <$400 winch to work with. If you have people that you might roll down the hill on top of, I'm sure they would be willing to loan you their recovery straps to get a long enough line, even with a hi-lift. lol
So ultimately it comes down to what kind of wheeling you do or plan to do, and how much risk you're willing to take for a given amount of money you want to spend on convenience. If you don't mind more headache to save money, get a hi-lift and a section of cable to keep in the back as a leader. If you have the money for the winch, go that route. I would go with something though, as others have said you should have SOME means of getting yourself out of a bind.
Personally, I'm saving for a winch that will be mounted on a hitch receiver to have the versatility of front or rear pulls. I have the hitches and cradle, just need the winch and wiring. If I had rock sliders I would have the hi-lift but right now I don't have any jack points to use a hi-lift on, so it's more worth it for me to save the money for a winch. While I would like a winch, I don't get an opportunity to wheel more than like twice a year and I usually have to go by myself when I do. That said, I go very easy and don't attempt stuff that will get me into trouble. I don't have to go super technical to have a lot of fun.
If your stuck with the nearest anchor point 128 ft away, you're probably hosed anyway because you don't have more than 100 ft of cable on the <$400 winch to work with. If you have people that you might roll down the hill on top of, I'm sure they would be willing to loan you their recovery straps to get a long enough line, even with a hi-lift. lol
So ultimately it comes down to what kind of wheeling you do or plan to do, and how much risk you're willing to take for a given amount of money you want to spend on convenience. If you don't mind more headache to save money, get a hi-lift and a section of cable to keep in the back as a leader. If you have the money for the winch, go that route. I would go with something though, as others have said you should have SOME means of getting yourself out of a bind.
Personally, I'm saving for a winch that will be mounted on a hitch receiver to have the versatility of front or rear pulls. I have the hitches and cradle, just need the winch and wiring. If I had rock sliders I would have the hi-lift but right now I don't have any jack points to use a hi-lift on, so it's more worth it for me to save the money for a winch. While I would like a winch, I don't get an opportunity to wheel more than like twice a year and I usually have to go by myself when I do. That said, I go very easy and don't attempt stuff that will get me into trouble. I don't have to go super technical to have a lot of fun.

with the RIGHT recovery equipment youll never be stuck alone...
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-a...87&t_pl=103680
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From: Cloquet, MN
Year: 2000 Ltd.
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Engine: 4.0L I6
with the RIGHT recovery equipment youll never be stuck alone...
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-a...87&t_pl=103680
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-a...87&t_pl=103680


