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Old 04-02-2012, 11:15 AM
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I plan on making some Shackles I have some 1/4in plate and some 2in tubing

But what I need is a measurement from someone else shackles eye to eye and what lift amount it is (ie stock shackles, 2in shackles ect.)

Currently running teraflex revolver shackles and that's the reason I need measurements from someone else because teraflex doesn't say how much lift is provided..

If I can get a measurement from any size shackle eye to eye I can use that as a reference for where to put my holes.. I plan on making them 1.5, 2, and 2.5 lift adjustable shackles

So if someone told me there 2in lift shackles were 4in eye to eye I'd know I need holes at 3.5 4 and 4.5

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3" eye to eye is stock

4.5" eye to eye is .75"

6" eye to eye is 1.5" lift

use math to figure out other lengths if you need them
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
3" eye to eye is stock

4.5" eye to eye is .75"

6" eye to eye is 1.5" lift

use math to figure out other lengths if you need them
So by that math I'd want holes at
6" eye to eye for 1.5" lift
7" eye to eye for 2" lift
And 8" eye to eye for 2.5" lift
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i suppose.

i wouldnt go that high with shackles though.

kills your departure angle and will overwork and wear out leaf packs quicker. will give you quite the pinion angle as well (not always a bad thing) you may also have to redo your shock mounts with the rotated pinion angle (if its severe enough) ive never experimented with shackles that long so i wouldnt know.
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i suppose.

i wouldnt go that high with shackles though.

kills your departure angle and will overwork and wear out leaf packs quicker. will give you quite the pinion angle as well (not always a bad thing) you may also have to redo your shock mounts with the rotated pinion angle (if its severe enough) ive never experimented with shackles that long so i wouldnt know.
I'll keep that in mind
Probly only go 1" 1.5" and 2"

Can you explain why it take 2"extra length in the shackles to create 1"of lift?
I'm still struggling to follow that logic but I'm sure if someone explained I cud catch on
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I'll keep that in mind
Probly only go 1" 1.5" and 2"

Can you explain why it take 2"extra length in the shackles to create 1"of lift?
I'm still struggling to follow that logic but I'm sure if someone explained I cud catch on
you are lowering the rear leaf mounting point

the front mounting point is staying in the same spot.

the axle is (just about) halfway between those 2 points.
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what size tubing would you use?
and where would you find the bushing?

i was thinking bout calling clayton and seeing if they carry the bushings they put in there shackles.
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Originally Posted by 96rokee
what size tubing would you use?
and where would you find the bushing?

i was thinking bout calling clayton and seeing if they carry the bushings they put in there shackles.
im making some shorter shackles for my rig now.

you can get the bushings from www.ruffstuffspecialties.com or www.barnes4wd.com as well as other places.

you want a 3" wide bushing and sleeve.

you can use tubing, but i plan on using some 1/4" plate and boxing it all in.

it has to be narrower at the frame side than the leaf side so it doesnt rub the shackle box.
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
im making some shorter shackles for my rig now.

you can get the bushings from www.ruffstuffspecialties.com or www.barnes4wd.com as well as other places.

you want a 3" wide bushing and sleeve.

you can use tubing, but i plan on using some 1/4" plate and boxing it all in.

it has to be narrower at the frame side than the leaf side so it doesnt rub the shackle box.
im not finding anything but 2" dom tubing with bushing
both site have those but i cant find 3" wide bushing and sleeve?

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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
im making some shorter shackles for my rig now.

you can get the bushings from www.ruffstuffspecialties.com or www.barnes4wd.com as well as other places.

you want a 3" wide bushing and sleeve.

you can use tubing, but i plan on using some 1/4" plate and boxing it all in.

it has to be narrower at the frame side than the leaf side so it doesnt rub the shackle box.

oh wait i think i get what you talking about.
you talking about how far the bolt has to go thru the bushing essentially? correct?

it need to be 3in wide and the tubing size and bushing size is semi irrelevant?
or would a bigger bushing be better?
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bigger bushing would allow more deflection/ flex. but the width is what has to be 3 inch. 2" diameter would be fine.
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awesome thankyou for your help on this!
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made mine today

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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
made mine today

Is that 1/4in or 3/16in?
And did u put that triangle piece on both sides or just one?

Still need to make mine

What did u make yours eye to eye?
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Just an FYI, the teraflex revolver shackles do not add any lift


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