tire balancing act
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From: Westfield, MA
Year: 1999.
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right those are based off using equal.
not sure if this is gonna have a huge impact or not and i forgot to mention it.. but i am running the RC 1.5" wheel spacers. would they have any effects on balancing with it being such big tires?
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From: Desert Hot Springs
Year: 1990
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Your bearings may have been replaced but with what brand? A cheap bearing may only last two years with stress. Go get yourself some good bearings from napa that guarantee that they will last. If your looking for a "smooth ride" I would also check all the bushings. If they look even a little cracked on the outside replace them with good ones like from energy suspension or poly mounts. They are well worth the money. Just make sure you get the ones with grease ports as they may squeak if not greased. If you have a truck shop near you check them out they will normally have a balancing machine that can zero out tires that large.
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From: By Detroit
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
You'd have to break the bead on one side of the tire and pour them in. You would want 8 oz in each tire at your tire size.
Links:
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/BigTirechart.htm
http://www.esco.net/uploads/ESCO%20B...ON%20CHART.pdf
http://www.finditparts.com/products/...FQYUKgodMExZkw
Anything that rolls around freely will do the job. BB's probably would be the cheapest way to do it. The fact that lead is so heavy would mean that there are less beads rolling around, so it might not balance as nicely. The beads that are made for this use (I'd guess they're probably silica) are pretty small and not as heavy, so they can balance out finer.
50/50 antifreeze would probably work pretty good. There were hub balancing rings that used to have mercury in them, and were supposed to work pretty good.
8 oz of airsoft bbs per tire. dont get the white ones though. they are biodegradable. i have 75% used 35" bfg m/t and they are balance well up to 60. havent tried to go past that but it really works. and i have no steering stabilizer. it got in the way so i took it off til i can do 1 ton steering.
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Originally Posted by 00SportXJ
You'd have to break the bead on one side of the tire and pour them in. You would want 8 oz in each tire at your tire size.
Links:
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/BigTirechart.htm
http://www.esco.net/uploads/ESCO%20B...ON%20CHART.pdf
http://www.finditparts.com/products/...FQYUKgodMExZkw
Anything that rolls around freely will do the job. BB's probably would be the cheapest way to do it. The fact that lead is so heavy would mean that there are less beads rolling around, so it might not balance as nicely. The beads that are made for this use (I'd guess they're probably silica) are pretty small and not as heavy, so they can balance out finer.
50/50 antifreeze would probably work pretty good. There were hub balancing rings that used to have mercury in them, and were supposed to work pretty good.
just go get them balanced by a shop and stop this ghetto $hit
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From: By Detroit
Year: 2000
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The 8oz recommendation is from the first link listed. It's the amount of weight they suggest to use for that tire size. The reason so many people are recommending this "ghetto $hit" is because traditional balancing obviously isn't getting the job done.
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From: By Detroit
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
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If you want to give Air Soft pellets a try, below are the amounts to use.
Like kxfracer108 said, make sure you don't buy the biodegradable ones. For about $15 and a few hours, you'll be all set. The cool thing about once they are in there, they help compensate for mud/ snow pack or lost lugs as you drive. Pellets are pretty much a lifetime balance for the tires. That's cheap compared to taking them to a shop when they get out of balance.
If you are shooting for the 8oz per tire,
8 ounces x 28.35 = 226.8 grams
226 grams of weight needs to be added to each tire.
If you are running something besides most 33's or 35's, Substitute the 8 ounces with the right weight found based on your tire size in this chart: http://www.innovativebalancing.com/BigTirechart.htm
Walmart has a few choices on Air Soft pellet weights.
--These are .12 gram pellets:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Ai...000ct/15103401
226.8 grams / .12 grams = 1890 pellets per tire
So if you go with the .12 gram ones, you would put about a 1/4 of the 10000 count jug in each tire.
--These are the .20 gram pellets:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Ai...00-Ct./9222912
226.8 grams / .20 grams = 1134 pellets per tire
Again, you would put about a 1/4 of the jug in each tire.
--These are the .25 gram pellets:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Ai...000ct/15103404
226.8 grams / .25 grams = 907 pellets per tire
Again, you would put about a 1/4 of the jug in each tire.
Like kxfracer108 said, make sure you don't buy the biodegradable ones. For about $15 and a few hours, you'll be all set. The cool thing about once they are in there, they help compensate for mud/ snow pack or lost lugs as you drive. Pellets are pretty much a lifetime balance for the tires. That's cheap compared to taking them to a shop when they get out of balance.
If you are shooting for the 8oz per tire,
8 ounces x 28.35 = 226.8 grams
226 grams of weight needs to be added to each tire.
If you are running something besides most 33's or 35's, Substitute the 8 ounces with the right weight found based on your tire size in this chart: http://www.innovativebalancing.com/BigTirechart.htm
Walmart has a few choices on Air Soft pellet weights.
--These are .12 gram pellets:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Ai...000ct/15103401
226.8 grams / .12 grams = 1890 pellets per tire
So if you go with the .12 gram ones, you would put about a 1/4 of the 10000 count jug in each tire.
--These are the .20 gram pellets:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Ai...00-Ct./9222912
226.8 grams / .20 grams = 1134 pellets per tire
Again, you would put about a 1/4 of the jug in each tire.
--These are the .25 gram pellets:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Ai...000ct/15103404
226.8 grams / .25 grams = 907 pellets per tire
Again, you would put about a 1/4 of the jug in each tire.
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well checked my wheel bearings today and drivers was shot so replaced that and still getting the vibs. gonna look at the bushings to my trac bar and drag link and long arms plus my LA johhny joints next.
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update so the shop had my tires filled to like 40-50 psi well after wheeling this weekend i aired back up to 30psi for driving on the road and the vibs are much less severe and now range only from 38-42 range. so its getting better. not sure where to look next or if i should just start replacing ALL bushing and go from there.
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From: Orlando
Year: 1988
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If bb's and the like will work then why not liquid? And why not more weight 8oz ain't gonna counter balance big clumps of mud... I have never had to re balance mu tires and there full of fix a flat and the likes. Seams a lot easer to try don't have to break the bead
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From: Desert Hot Springs
Year: 1990
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Engine: 4.0l
Seeing as bushings are cheap and would help ether way it might be a good place to start. I just got my kit for like 140 with shipping. And the sway bar bushings
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