tire balancing act
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tire balancing act
ok so heres the deal, i upgraded to 35s the other day. congrats to me? not so fast. the tires seem to refuse to balance.. giving me slight DW around 35-40 mph.. after that no real issues. and i know its not the rims and shouldnt be anything in my steering for i was cruising down the highway at 70-75mph with my 32s and had not a single issue.
so back to my origional issue. i first got the tires balanced with wheel weights, that didnt rly do the trick was getting DW still so i brought it to town fair tire bc i new they used equal. well they told me since im running 35s there gonna leave my wheel weights on and add equal to it. (i know for 35s its 4-6oz of equal) i wasnt sure at the time if using both equal and wheel weights was a good idea but hey there the experts not me correct?
so anyways i had both wheel weights and equal in for about a day. decided to ask around bc with both i still was balanced. everyone i asked either didnt know if you can use both or were HIGHLY against using both. so i then took my wheel weights off today.
AGAIN at 35-40 mph im getting slight DW this is def the worst iv gotten it yet (but i understand that the bag of equal needs to break to balance out the tires & only reason they were semi balanced before was the additional wheel weights)
so my question for all of you jeep experts out there is. can i run both wheel weights and equal? and also how long does the bag take to break? miles wise or time wise and are there any ways to speed up the process bc i needa know if im gonna be making a trip back to town fair to give em a peice of my mind and have them correctly do my tires.
all opinions would be greatly appreciated as i am completely lost on this topic. thanks.
so back to my origional issue. i first got the tires balanced with wheel weights, that didnt rly do the trick was getting DW still so i brought it to town fair tire bc i new they used equal. well they told me since im running 35s there gonna leave my wheel weights on and add equal to it. (i know for 35s its 4-6oz of equal) i wasnt sure at the time if using both equal and wheel weights was a good idea but hey there the experts not me correct?
so anyways i had both wheel weights and equal in for about a day. decided to ask around bc with both i still was balanced. everyone i asked either didnt know if you can use both or were HIGHLY against using both. so i then took my wheel weights off today.
AGAIN at 35-40 mph im getting slight DW this is def the worst iv gotten it yet (but i understand that the bag of equal needs to break to balance out the tires & only reason they were semi balanced before was the additional wheel weights)
so my question for all of you jeep experts out there is. can i run both wheel weights and equal? and also how long does the bag take to break? miles wise or time wise and are there any ways to speed up the process bc i needa know if im gonna be making a trip back to town fair to give em a peice of my mind and have them correctly do my tires.
all opinions would be greatly appreciated as i am completely lost on this topic. thanks.
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The weight difference in your meats might be throwing something else out of wack.
Have you checked your tierods, ball joints, lug nuts, hubs, u joints, track bar, etc?
Have you checked your tierods, ball joints, lug nuts, hubs, u joints, track bar, etc?
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I would check out your suspension. If there balanced on the machine, then there balanced on your jeep. Tire wobble usually happend between 50-55 mph. Sounds like you have a suspension related dw to me.
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tie rod is bout a month or 2 old. trac bar bout a year. i know my drag link lower bushing is going, i do have noises coming from my steering that i cant correct for the life of me. like i said though i didnt get dw at 70mph with 32s this past week
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And it may have not been present with the 32's and the 35's were the straw that broke the camels back. Or the tires just arnt balanced. It just takes some troubleshooting.
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Originally Posted by Nperryman
Steering stabilizer? I read something the other day about upgrading to 35's might require dual stabilizers. I honestly have no idea though
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This happens a lot when you put big meaty tires on. Get it to someone that can align it with those tires on it. With the bigger tires it will change the angle of your suspension and everything else. Also check your driveshafts and grease them. Another good thing to do is make sure you PROPERLY tq ALL he lug nuts in the proper sequence. If that doesn't fix it there is one other thing I have experienced and that would be to check the brakes/rotors. Pull off the front rotors and check the run out and make sure it's well within spec. This happened on my 90xj it was .03 within spec and I slapped on new pads and rotors and cleaned the dust/rust off of the hat/hub and that fixed it. Hope this helps! I know how big of a headache it can be
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Wen they balance tires there are different setting most shop use a smart balance setting which doesnt completely zero out the wheels to save the weights..
Possibly there not completely balancing out and with such large tires could be throwing u off
Possibly there not completely balancing out and with such large tires could be throwing u off
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like stated before duel steering stabalizers just mask bigger issues.. but at the same time i will prolly buy one just for fact how big my new tires are..
should i get an entirely new allignment after upgrading my tires? would the size of the new tires have that big an issue? or should i adjust any of my steering components like drag link or trac bar after going to 35s?
i will check the wheel bearings and axle joints and see if there going. but they shoulda been replaced within last 2 years max.
any other suggestions? i just want as smooth ride as i can get. i know this isnt a caddy but id like no DW and as little vibs as possible.
should i get an entirely new allignment after upgrading my tires? would the size of the new tires have that big an issue? or should i adjust any of my steering components like drag link or trac bar after going to 35s?
i will check the wheel bearings and axle joints and see if there going. but they shoulda been replaced within last 2 years max.
any other suggestions? i just want as smooth ride as i can get. i know this isnt a caddy but id like no DW and as little vibs as possible.
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My dumb questions would be. New tires? What kinda tires? I had some boggers that felt like the drive shaft was bent at speed yet the rig ran like a dream on 2" taller all terrains
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