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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 11:15 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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What's this angle
let me get my 6th grade protractor out and see
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Thats a horrible way to measure the angle. The line on the diff especially is likely not the most accurate and the picture is take from a angle. Just buy and angle finder for $10 and measure the two angles.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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I measured it with a digital angle finder.

For the pinion angle, I indexed against the face of the yoke.

For the drive shaft, I indexed against the bottom of the drive shaft.

There might be some small errors if the angle finder wasn't exactly aligned on the shaft or yoke but I'm sure both measurements are within a degree.



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Pinion angle measures 3.6 degrees.

Drive shaft fitted into place measures 19.6 degrees.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Photo of pinion angle measurement technique I used:
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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Just toss in a 6 degree and take another measurement, or just a pic. Shims are only 10 bucks.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jeeper kyle
Just toss in a 6 degree and take another measurement, or just a pic. Shims are only 10 bucks.
Who sells them for 10 bucks?
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:38 AM
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jeeper kyle
I think these are only 3 degrees.

Can you stack them without problem?
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 11:46 AM
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for every degree the pinion goes up the d.s. goes down. That would mean you need a 8 degree.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wrapstar
for every degree the pinion goes up the d.s. goes down. That would mean you need a 8 degree.
Because the drive shaft is about 3 times the length of the pinion, I think the drive shaft angle only goes down by 1/3 of the degrees in the shim so I came up with a 12 degree requirement.

It looks like a 8 degree shim is the largest available so I am going to try one of them.
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What's this angle
I dont mean to change the subject but how much more travel do you have in that drive shaft? It seems short compared to mine.
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I dont mean to change the subject but how much more travel do you have in that drive shaft? It seems short compared to mine.
I have been looking at that myself.

About 1 1/4".

My shackle angle is currently forward so I don't think there is much more droop to be had.

How much do you think I need?
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Originally Posted by sreeb
I have been looking at that myself.

About 1 1/4".

My shackle angle is currently forward so I don't think there is much more droop to be had.

How much do you think I need?
You should be fine. The DS actually gets longer under compression. The Leafs form a triangle, but the change isnt much so you should have plenty. Id do some flexing and measure it to be sure though.
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