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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan91
You guys have to realize it's not fun to have no front swaybar when you really need it. It's scary. If you haven't had to swerve at any moderate-high speed to avoid something then you don't yet understand the severity of the problem (which only gets worse with more lift). I'd highly suggest hooking that front swaybar up. Under normal driving situations you don't notice, but when you need it, you sure as hell will wish it was there.
Dan91 hit it on the nose. I'm not saying you couldn't get away with not using it BUT... when you do need it in an emergency situation and don't have it... you are SOL. Is it worth your life and the people around you?
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Greenfishinkayak
Just search front swaybar. Lots of horror stories. If you want to drive more carefully ok but it's easier to keep em on and do $7 disconnects or something
Fabricated storys, followed by a few true storys where drivers who suck at driving needed something to blame besides the idiot actually driving who thought swerving a high center of gravity vehicle at high speeds was a grand idea.

Originally Posted by liftedjeepxj
I've gone 5 years with no front sway bar. 4.5 inch lift, spacers and 11.50 inch wide tires. Driving in Vegas, living near china town, and always jammin on the freeway I've never had a single problem or sense of worry.
This.


You don't need a front sway bar, if you are cornering a lifted narrow high center vehicle like a race car you deserve to be on your lid, and its nobodys fault but your own, a swaybar which preloads the front coils and takes some body roll out isn't going to make or break the jeeps performence.

Some bad driver will come in, hump this and talk about how he flipped his jeep a hundred and seventeen times trying to park at costco because of no swaybar tho.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:38 AM
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Well to each his own. I just personally don't see the reason to risk it when it only cost like $7 to make your own disconnects.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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I'd rather buy a combo meal. Removing it was free and took something like 10lbs off the front of the rig, which is already extremely nose heavy.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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My trail rig hasn't had a sway bar in YEARS. I drive it to and from the trails with no issue.

That being said, I made a point to leave the sway bars on my DD Cherokee (3" lift). I enjoy being able to drive it like it's stock rather than being limited to reducing my speed around corners like I do in the trail rig...

No, it's not entirely necessary but it's not a bad idea. The sway bar isn't going to make the difference in if you're going to roll or not.

In closing, I rolled my Jeep TWO hundred and seventeen times backing into a spot at Lucy's Love Shop. I shoulda had a sway bar.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
In closing, I rolled my Jeep TWO hundred and seventeen times backing into a spot at Lucy's Love Shop. I shoulda had a sway bar.
I think I love you. I know its sudden, but I do. :laugh:
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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I can pick a back tire up while cornering. 3 wheeler style.

I haven't ever had a sway bar on my truck. Little over 3" of lift daily driven.

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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 07:57 AM
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8" of lift with coils all around. Got about 8k miles on it now with now with no swaybars. I roll it over at least once every time I commute, but I've gotten pretty good at it and I can usually land it back on its wheels now monster truck style without stopping. Sometimes the body doesn't even hit the ground. But I'd run swaybars unless you're this good because flipping is inevitable and everybody around you will die.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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I think people really just need to learn to drive.

Same thing with ABS. I think ABS is useless as well. But lord knows if you disable it bunnies die.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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I think the swaybar is simply something you remove/disco for offroad performance, and install/connect for onroad performance. It can be removed, but your pavement performance will be arguably better if you have it on.
Isn't it better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it?
In my opinion the rear swaybar even helped, but it was so minimal the removal made much more sense.
If you can set it up as a disconnectable link, I'd certainly go that route. Hit up your hardware store and you can probably find something that will work for a DIY price.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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You can do quick discos for something like$ .60

Less than a buck.

There is a thread here about it.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
I think people really just need to learn to drive.

Same thing with ABS. I think ABS is useless as well. But lord knows if you disable it bunnies die.


qft
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
I think people really just need to learn to drive.

Same thing with ABS. I think ABS is useless as well. But lord knows if you disable it bunnies die.
Exactly. That's why cars didn't work for The first 100 years. Good thing we have all this now!
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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This topic gets beat more then a dead horse.

It's as simple as to each his own.

I never had one from the first day I lifted it 3" through to when it was at 8". You learn to adjust and just have to think smart. Some can't handle that.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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i run without one. i still have it if i ever wanna hit the highway but the highest speed in my town is like 45 and the roads are in a grid for the most part so i dont see a need for it on my xj. but i've always wanted to do donuts in it, maybe i'll try that today
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