OK, then you need to also preach about not putting larger & heavier roof racks on cherokees, or putting heavy spare tires up on top of cherokees (roll-overs), or putting suspension lifts & larger tires on cherokees (stopping, steering pretty much everything)......none of which were the cherokee designed for or built to handle, and all of which contribute more than a disconnected sway bar to the accidents that happen.

 

Amen.

EVERY mod you do is against the grain to the original config. People mod for their own reasons, and then deal with their choice. Adapt or die, haha

 

Yeah. Odds are that red cherokee rolled because of the roof rack and tire as well as the lift. And probably going to fast in an area where dogs would be loose.

 

 

i haven’t had sway bars for about 50k miles now. it’s in the driving, not the vehicle.

 

Def need the story on that if you have it!!!!

 

I will weigh in on the value of the sway bar off road, as that was your initial question. I see this thread has digressed into the typical heated argument about sway bars.

I enjoy driving on the beach in the OBX. There are some twisty trails on the islands you can run through with some speed. I come from fast cars to jeeps, so I LOVE those trails. When I first started going out there, I kept the sway bar connected. The jeep handled well (considering it's on 33s w/ 5" of lift), not quite race car, but I could throw it through the trails. Unfortunately I found out the hard way the stock sway bar mounts are not engineered for such loads. The sway bar will act as the limiting factor for the suspension travel. Bent the hell out of the mounts.

So, I started disconnecting the sway bar when I go on the beach. I don't want to rip the sway bar mounts apart. At first it was unnerving the amount of roll the jeep had in the twisties. I have not feared rolling it over, I'm in sand, it doesn't have enough traction to tip. But my ability to slalom at speed is nil. So much body roll it's concerning, but I have gotten used to it and do not believe it is hazardous.

Now, it seems most wheeling is more technical at slower speeds. I have taken it into the woods and rocks, and it is GREAT having the bar disconnected. You are moving slow enough the body roll isn't an issue at all. But the traction you gain is night and day difference.

If I were out west doing Prerunner wheeling in the dessert, I would look at installing an Antirock type sway bar.

 

Do you happen to know what will make a vehicle roll 10 times more often than not having a sway bar? A lift kit. And bigger tires. It is a simple fact of vehicle dynamics. So I hope your Jeep is 100% stock because if it is not then you are endangering everyone on the planet.

 

Found it on the net a while back,The sway bar is on it its probably driver error trying to flex on a curb or something and tipped it over.

 

Some reason a lot of newer suvs stability control,They are top heavy and doing a emergency lane change at 55mph some would roll over factory.

 

Driver error.

 

Thanks for the advice. I never ever go fast offroad (my buddies give me crap all day for it) so sounds like it should work out fine to disco when off road.