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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 12:34 AM
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Soo I am on 4 inch lift stock steering and 35 1250 15s

Its getting kinda tough to turn the wheel on the road at low speeds like doin a u turn or whatever, and the off road, I will totally not be able to turn the wheel one way or the other sometimes...? Idk why this is happening... Any ideas??

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Should I replace something??? Upgrade orrrr?
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepguy93
Soo I am on 4 inch lift stock steering and 35 1250 15s

Its getting kinda tough to turn the wheel on the road at low speeds like doin a u turn or whatever, and the off road, I will totally not be able to turn the wheel one way or the other sometimes...? Idk why this is happening... Any ideas??

If you have questions just ask!!

Should I replace something??? Upgrade orrrr?
turning 35's with stock steering isn't easy on the system. did you just put on 35's? still getting used to the bigger tires? or a new symptom and had the tires on a a while?

Sounds just like when my steering gear box went out. had lots of play in the box, threw a durango box in while I was at it. check for play in the box.

also check the basics, fluid level? any leaks? any noises? loose belt?

Could be low on fluid, bad gear box, bad pump (low volume at idle/lower rpm) slipping belt.

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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 12:57 AM
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turning 35's with stock steering isn't easy on the system. did you just put on 35's? still getting used to the bigger tires? or a new symptom and had the tires on a a while?

Sounds just like when my steering gear box went out. had lots of play in the box, threw a durango box in while I was at it. check for play in the box.

also check the basics, fluid level? any leaks? any noises? loose belt?

Could be low on fluid, bad gear box, bad pump (low volume at idle/lower rpm) slipping belt.
Had 35s awhile... Fluid is good level belt is good no noises...not much play in steering... Did just recently start getting death wobble too... Could that be related?
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepguy93

Had 35s awhile... Fluid is good level belt is good no noises...not much play in steering... Did just recently start getting death wobble too... Could that be related?
Upgrade your steering system
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 09:13 AM
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hydro assist.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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hydro assist.
If there is nothing wrong, this would be the next step!
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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Had 35s awhile... Fluid is good level belt is good no noises...not much play in steering... Did just recently start getting death wobble too... Could that be related?

YES.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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So upgrade my tie rod and drag link????
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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And gearbox.
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Tie rod and drag link should have ntohing to do with hard steering offroad. You said you have had the 35's a while, but have you always had the problem?
If not than you should be looking at pump/box.
Get underneath and have someone turn the wheel back and forth and see if you have any loose/worn parts.
Dont throw steering parts at it if it really needs balljoints, or a trackbar.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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Tie rod and drag link should have ntohing to do with hard steering offroad. You said you have had the 35's a while, but have you always had the problem?
If not than you should be looking at pump/box.
Get underneath and have someone turn the wheel back and forth and see if you have any loose/worn parts.
Dont throw steering parts at it if it really needs balljoints, or a trackbar.
Offroad its fine, just every once and awhile I get a dead spot where I cant turn one way. when I cant turn its when my jeep is like this (pic) and im trying to turn up the hill. It doesnt always do it, but the flex doesnt have to be that intense for it to happen either...
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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35 Is a lot of tire to turn. I get bound up a lot in the rocks, or even in a rut like your pic. For me its nothing to do witht the steering, its just leverages, there isnt enough power to turn a 35" tire in those circumstances. you cant get any more mechanical leverage so you need some more power to turn. For me this is where hydro assist comes in.
I imagine your in the same boat. Fine 80% of the time, but when your up against something, and need to turn, its not happening.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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ive got a built stocker gear box for sale.

i also have a built dakota box. i maybe would sell.

my XJ on 38s uses a built dakota box and steers no problem.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ct67_72
35 Is a lot of tire to turn. I get bound up a lot in the rocks, or even in a rut like your pic. For me its nothing to do witht the steering, its just leverages, there isnt enough power to turn a 35" tire in those circumstances. you cant get any more mechanical leverage so you need some more power to turn. For me this is where hydro assist comes in.
I imagine your in the same boat. Fine 80% of the time, but when your up against something, and need to turn, its not happening.
X2! plus you have to learn when to turn and when to drive then turn with assist, as bound up its either going to turn or something will break lol

But step one is make sure nothing is binding or bad. Verify it, don't go with your gut or what someone else says.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 06:40 AM
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stabilizer bolt hitting drag link? Drag link hitting sway bar mount?
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