In search of a proper OME 2-3 inch lift
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I have the rear springs called OME XJ light load rear springs. OME used to call them 1.5 to 1.75" lift springs. IME they give 2" lift to the rear of a stock weight XJ, or 1.5" to an XJ with aftermarket bumper and gas tank skidplate. On my XJ, it gives me 1.75" lift because I have a gas tank skidplate and stock bumper.
My OME TJ Light Load front springs give me 1.25" lift with my skid plates.
I don't remember what part numbers my front and rear springs are. If you really need to know the part number(s) let me know and I'll dig through my records to find it. The rear springs I have were discontinued a few years ago. I bought them 6 months after they were discontinued. I got the last pair of them that were available in the country.
My OME TJ Light Load front springs give me 1.25" lift with my skid plates.
I don't remember what part numbers my front and rear springs are. If you really need to know the part number(s) let me know and I'll dig through my records to find it. The rear springs I have were discontinued a few years ago. I bought them 6 months after they were discontinued. I got the last pair of them that were available in the country.
I have decided on using the cs033rb leafs with the 2934 coils. I plan on adding a winch/bumper in the future, so that's why I decided on the heavier spring rate coils. I also decided on using JK rubicon shocks, strictly to save money. I already have the shocks and BPE's- got the shocks off of Ebay for $78 shipped for all four, and got bar pin eliminators from rocky road outfitters to use for the front. The BPE's add about an inch of extension for the front shock. I am buying one item at a time, so it will be a few months before I have all the parts assembled and ready to install. If anyone wants the info on the rubicon shocks, I read this thread from jeep forum. They will work with 2-3 inches of lift. I do not think they will work with no lift. My friend put them on his XJ with no lift and they were bottoming out.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/i...ite-up-603221/
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My favorite trick is to use OME TJ front coils with Bilsten 5100 shocks for my XJ. This gives a nice smooth ride for light XJs that have stock bumpers and no winch (with or without skidplates), and it has good cornering-handling.
Front Springs Rates
Stock-OEM TJ non-Rubi springs 130 lbs/in. To short for an XJ, but listed for reference to compare spring rates.
Rancho TJ non-Rubi springs 130 lbs/in. 2.5" to 3" lift for TJ, which would be 1.5" to 2" for XJ. These are nice soft springs. I think they would be great for a stock/light weight XJ. They are well made springs and low cost.
Stock-OEM TJ Rubi springs 140 lbs/in. To short for an XJ, but listed for reference to compare spring rates.
ARB-OME TJ springs 140 lbs/in. Light Load version gives approx 2" lift for stock TJ, or 1.5" for stock XJ. My XJ has extra weight (frame stiffeners in front + front skidplate + engine-tranny skidplate). These springs give my XJ 1.25" lift. It rides comfortably, corners good, and gives me an extra 1.25" suspension uptravel to soak up bumps. I use Bilstein 5100 shocks. Works great for a DD with 30" or 245 ATs.
ARB-OME TJ springs 140 lbs/in. Heavy Load version gives approx 2.5" lift for stock TJ, or 2" for stock XJ. My XJ has extra weight (frame stiffeners in front + front skidplate + engine-tranny skidplate). These springs would give my slightly heavier than stock (skidplates) XJ 1.75" lift.
Note: ARB-OME TJ springs Light Load and Heavy Load springs are both 140 lbs spring rate. The difference is Heavy Load springs are 0.6" longer.
Stock-OEM XJ springs 147 lbs/in.
ARB-OME XJ 160 lbs/in. These are great springs for an XJ with a heavy front-end. Like aftermarket bumper and/or winch (with or without skidplates). However, this spring rate is to stiff for a light, stock weight XJ, IMO. Some people might say they ride good on a stock XJ, but that's not what they were made/intended for. They're made for significantly heavier than stock XJs. For a lightweight XJ a much better ride can be had with Rancho TJ 130 lbs or OME TJ 140 lbs springs.
For any of the low lift springs I prefer Bilstein 5100 shocks because they ride comfortably and have good handling, IMO. Also, they work well with stock bumpstops, as do the Rancho and ARB-OME springs mentioned above. ARB-OME used to make comfortable riding shocks for XJs, but not anymore. Now ARB-OME only offers OME Sport Shocks, which I personally find to harsh. Rancho's cheap lift shocks are harsh riding junk, IMO. Rancho's best lift shocks are good for ride and adjustability, but don't offer enough compression and extension, IMO. Skyjacker shocks are reputed to ride good, but they are completely hydro-shocks, which I think would fade. So by process of elimination, Bilstein 5100 shocks are my favorites. They works really well with my ARB-OME front TJ springs.
P.S. - I assume Rancho also makes Rancho XJ lift springs. If so, I don't know their spring rate. If anyone knows it, please post it.
Front Springs Rates
Stock-OEM TJ non-Rubi springs 130 lbs/in. To short for an XJ, but listed for reference to compare spring rates.
Rancho TJ non-Rubi springs 130 lbs/in. 2.5" to 3" lift for TJ, which would be 1.5" to 2" for XJ. These are nice soft springs. I think they would be great for a stock/light weight XJ. They are well made springs and low cost.
Stock-OEM TJ Rubi springs 140 lbs/in. To short for an XJ, but listed for reference to compare spring rates.
ARB-OME TJ springs 140 lbs/in. Light Load version gives approx 2" lift for stock TJ, or 1.5" for stock XJ. My XJ has extra weight (frame stiffeners in front + front skidplate + engine-tranny skidplate). These springs give my XJ 1.25" lift. It rides comfortably, corners good, and gives me an extra 1.25" suspension uptravel to soak up bumps. I use Bilstein 5100 shocks. Works great for a DD with 30" or 245 ATs.
ARB-OME TJ springs 140 lbs/in. Heavy Load version gives approx 2.5" lift for stock TJ, or 2" for stock XJ. My XJ has extra weight (frame stiffeners in front + front skidplate + engine-tranny skidplate). These springs would give my slightly heavier than stock (skidplates) XJ 1.75" lift.
Note: ARB-OME TJ springs Light Load and Heavy Load springs are both 140 lbs spring rate. The difference is Heavy Load springs are 0.6" longer.
Stock-OEM XJ springs 147 lbs/in.
ARB-OME XJ 160 lbs/in. These are great springs for an XJ with a heavy front-end. Like aftermarket bumper and/or winch (with or without skidplates). However, this spring rate is to stiff for a light, stock weight XJ, IMO. Some people might say they ride good on a stock XJ, but that's not what they were made/intended for. They're made for significantly heavier than stock XJs. For a lightweight XJ a much better ride can be had with Rancho TJ 130 lbs or OME TJ 140 lbs springs.
For any of the low lift springs I prefer Bilstein 5100 shocks because they ride comfortably and have good handling, IMO. Also, they work well with stock bumpstops, as do the Rancho and ARB-OME springs mentioned above. ARB-OME used to make comfortable riding shocks for XJs, but not anymore. Now ARB-OME only offers OME Sport Shocks, which I personally find to harsh. Rancho's cheap lift shocks are harsh riding junk, IMO. Rancho's best lift shocks are good for ride and adjustability, but don't offer enough compression and extension, IMO. Skyjacker shocks are reputed to ride good, but they are completely hydro-shocks, which I think would fade. So by process of elimination, Bilstein 5100 shocks are my favorites. They works really well with my ARB-OME front TJ springs.
P.S. - I assume Rancho also makes Rancho XJ lift springs. If so, I don't know their spring rate. If anyone knows it, please post it.
I just want to add to it a little:
Rusty's 2" lift coil springs: 150 lbs/in - this is what they told me in an email when I asked them.
(sorry for bring up an old thread)
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Here's a before and after of my 99 with OME 2.5" lift. I added an SYE, and consequently added a 4 degree shim to the rear diff. Seems a tad short in front though..
Before + after OME 2.5" lift
Before + after OME 2.5" lift
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This is the same setup I had in picture from July 10 of '16 but with 400+lbs of stuff in the back plus a 200lb dirt bike sitting on a 50lb carrier. Still very impressed how these springs have held up, they always come right back to where they were once unloaded.
DeadFlagBlues: Your results look almost identical to mine... I bet the rears will settle down a bit, but I have thought more than once about putting a 1/2" or 3/4" spacer in the front to level the thing out, that is once I don't need the capacity any more. Nice Jeep!
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To begin...very clean XJ's gentlemen!!
Depending on what your goal is and how much you can afford to do at once is always a consideration of course. For any that may be looking for a great full lift check MetalCloak ARB Edition. It's $ but worth every penny IMO. I started with a trash 3" lift that lasted about 4yrs and upgraded about 2yrs ago. I went with the full leaf packs and ACOS adjustable spacers for 5in of lift.
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To begin...very clean XJ's gentlemen!!
Depending on what your goal is and how much you can afford to do at once is always a consideration of course. For any that may be looking for a great full lift check MetalCloak ARB Edition. It's $ but worth every penny IMO. I started with a trash 3" lift that lasted about 4yrs and upgraded about 2yrs ago. I went with the full leaf packs and ACOS adjustable spacers for 5in of lift.
My .02.
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This is the same setup I had in picture from July 10 of '16 but with 400+lbs of stuff in the back plus a 200lb dirt bike sitting on a 50lb carrier. Still very impressed how these springs have held up, they always come right back to where they were once unloaded.
DeadFlagBlues: Your results look almost identical to mine... I bet the rears will settle down a bit, but I have thought more than once about putting a 1/2" or 3/4" spacer in the front to level the thing out, that is once I don't need the capacity any more. Nice Jeep!
DeadFlagBlues: Your results look almost identical to mine... I bet the rears will settle down a bit, but I have thought more than once about putting a 1/2" or 3/4" spacer in the front to level the thing out, that is once I don't need the capacity any more. Nice Jeep!
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I just purchased the ARB CS033RB Old Man Emu/Dakar Leaf Springs for my 99 XJ.
Did you use the stock shackles and was there any interference?
My cherokee I just bought has a brand new RC 4.5" lift which is just too high I'm hoping for ~3" of lift that is smooth and safe for daily driving.
Did you use the stock shackles and was there any interference?
My cherokee I just bought has a brand new RC 4.5" lift which is just too high I'm hoping for ~3" of lift that is smooth and safe for daily driving.
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heres mine with the 930 coils, RE 1.75" coil spacer and the full CS033RB leaf pack in the rear, stock shackles, OME shocks front/rear.. sits right around 3-3.5". tcase drop, rebuilt front and rear shafts, vibe free. this pic was taken prob a week after install, now I have prob 6k on the lift and shes practically level.
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heres mine with the 930 coils, RE 1.75" coil spacer and the full CS033RB leaf pack in the rear, stock shackles, OME shocks front/rear.. sits right around 3-3.5". tcase drop, rebuilt front and rear shafts, vibe free. this pic was taken prob a week after install, now I have prob 6k on the lift and shes practically level.