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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
use bar pin eliminators, not those
those are bar pin eliminators. at least the ones i posted and TenECXJ posted are.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TenECXJ
Y?
Originally Posted by cdawall
those are bar pin eliminators. at least the ones i posted and TenECXJ posted are.


He was referring to the OP who posted the link to the blue boxes...


I say BPE's also as using BPE's opens up a lot more options as far as shock selection.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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Yea, stupid me didn't realize the swaybar mounts were the same before I bought the BPE. But I went ahead and installed the new ones on the front and back since I already had them.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TenECXJ
Y?
they are better. less clunking, preload on bushing, no removing upper bolts to remove shock, probably others

Originally Posted by cdawall
those are bar pin eliminators. at least the ones i posted and TenECXJ posted are.
I was referring to the OPs ebay link
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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Check out my leaf and shock write up. No need, in my opinion, to spend a bunch of extra money for stuff you dont need. Youre going to need to pound out the old ones anyway, so taking an extra 1 minute each to feed a new bolt through the top using a telescoping magnet isnt exactly a PITA.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cdawall
the rear shock mounts they have are exactly the same as the sway bar mounts.




you really need to turn those 90° and weld them in place... you are binding your shocks
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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has anyone actually ever experienced the supposed binding? Of everything ive read, guys either have them sideways and have no trouble, or dont have them and say sideways will bind
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
you really need to turn those 90° and weld them in place... you are binding your shocks
no i dont.

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has anyone actually ever experienced the supposed binding? Of everything ive read, guys either have them sideways and have no trouble, or dont have them and say sideways will bind
works perfectly fine? the binding idea might be true on a twin tube (IDK how those work nor do i care) however a monotube will see no difference in it being turned its a piston with hydro fluid on both sides of it. a piston is round makes no difference how you turn it a piston is still rounds and still works the same. look at your front shocks its got a post at the top i guarantee that it got turned at some point in time and yet no binding there. so were is the binding? and why has no one who uses those exact same BPE's seeing it. not to mention thats the same basic way jeep mounts there shocks and yet again no binding. sounds like an old wives tale.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TenECXJ
No problem. I'll try and post some pics Saturday evening.

Got the link. thanks for the post. Interesting set up with thier installation. I already have the JKS front BPE's. I don't have any problems with the rear but i'd always like some extra travel back there. I'll keep them in mind. Thanks again.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cdawall
sounds like an old wives tale.

it's called simple geometry
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
it's called simple geometry
how so the upper and lower mounts do not move so the direction that they face should not matter especially since jeep used the same exact mounts with the bar pins? the bushing should absorb and binding that could be caused by the rear end flexing up and down. if the design was so bad why do people continue to use the stock mount locations?



simple geometry what? its ROUND, ROUND things don't bind just because they are turned. take a shock inbetween your arms and compress it straight up and down, now turn the top section 90 degrees and do the same thing, NOTHING changes.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cdawall
how so the upper and lower mounts do not move so the direction that they face should not matter especially since jeep used the same exact mounts with the bar pins? the bushing should absorb and binding that could be caused by the rear end flexing up and down. if the design was so bad why do people continue to use the stock mount locations?



simple geometry what? its ROUND, ROUND things don't bind just because they are turned. take a shock inbetween your arms and compress it straight up and down, now turn the top section 90 degrees and do the same thing, NOTHING changes.
buddy I like you but I don;t think you are getting it... that's ok you will figure it out...
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cdawall
how so the upper and lower mounts do not move so the direction that they face should not matter especially since jeep used the same exact mounts with the bar pins? the bushing should absorb and binding that could be caused by the rear end flexing up and down. if the design was so bad why do people continue to use the stock mount locations?



simple geometry what? its ROUND, ROUND things don't bind just because they are turned. take a shock inbetween your arms and compress it straight up and down, now turn the top section 90 degrees and do the same thing, NOTHING changes.
buddy I like you but I don;t think you are getting it... that's ok you will figure it out...

btw the bar pins are clocked differently... 90° to be exact
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ericfx1984
buddy I like you but I don;t think you are getting it... that's ok you will figure it out...

btw the bar pins are clocked differently... 90° to be exact
yea thought about the direction after i posted that. regardless were is the binding? in the bushing? its not in the physical shock seeing how a shock is just a piston and a piston doesn't care how it sits in the body since its round.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cdawall
yea thought about the direction after i posted that. regardless were is the binding? in the bushing? its not in the physical shock seeing how a shock is just a piston and a piston doesn't care how it sits in the body since its round.
look at the rear shock...


the way you have the BPE turned will bind some...it basically makes the top mount not able to twist when the bottom mount can twist...

you want them on the same plane...

just cause you do not notice the binding does not mean it is not there...


it might not be a big deal in the rear... but try that in the front with a crazy flexy coil setup...
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