RC drop brackets
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From: Carrollton, GA
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6 4.0L High Output
Originally Posted by caged
do any of you guys have actual experience with drop brackets? i have. (i know some of you have). but for those of you that haven't...
i had the rubicon express drop brackets, i have never had an issue with them hanging up on anything. well, maybe a log from crossing at an angle, but i powered over that and didn't get hung up.
the rubicon express brackets are much better design and much stronger than rough country.
drop brackets lower both the upper and lower the same amount in the same bracket, so, you must use stock length control arms or at least the same upper and lower arms from a lift kit. they need to be retrospective in length.
so you can't use a stock length upper and say an aftermarket lower for a 3.5 inch lift, otherwise you will push the bottom of the axle forward, leaving the top at stock length, therefor messing up your castor.
i guess you could use a matching set for a 3.5 inch kit to stretch your wheel base a tad. just as long as they're a match for length (compared to stock).
i had the rubicon express drop brackets, i have never had an issue with them hanging up on anything. well, maybe a log from crossing at an angle, but i powered over that and didn't get hung up.
the rubicon express brackets are much better design and much stronger than rough country.
drop brackets lower both the upper and lower the same amount in the same bracket, so, you must use stock length control arms or at least the same upper and lower arms from a lift kit. they need to be retrospective in length.
so you can't use a stock length upper and say an aftermarket lower for a 3.5 inch lift, otherwise you will push the bottom of the axle forward, leaving the top at stock length, therefor messing up your castor.
i guess you could use a matching set for a 3.5 inch kit to stretch your wheel base a tad. just as long as they're a match for length (compared to stock).
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From: Carrollton, GA
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6 4.0L High Output
Originally Posted by Outlaw Star
My RC drops on an RE 3.5 w/homemade boxed LCAs.
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From: Bellevue, WA
Year: 1998
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do any of you guys have actual experience with drop brackets? i have. (i know some of you have). but for those of you that haven't...
i had the rubicon express drop brackets, i have never had an issue with them hanging up on anything. well, maybe a log from crossing at an angle, but i powered over that and didn't get hung up.
the rubicon express brackets are much better design and much stronger than rough country.
drop brackets lower both the upper and lower the same amount in the same bracket, so, you must use stock length control arms or at least the same upper and lower arms from a lift kit. they need to be retrospective in length.
so you can't use a stock length upper and say an aftermarket lower for a 3.5 inch lift, otherwise you will push the bottom of the axle forward, leaving the top at stock length, therefor messing up your castor.
i guess you could use a matching set for a 3.5 inch kit to stretch your wheel base a tad. just as long as they're a match for length (compared to stock).
i had the rubicon express drop brackets, i have never had an issue with them hanging up on anything. well, maybe a log from crossing at an angle, but i powered over that and didn't get hung up.
the rubicon express brackets are much better design and much stronger than rough country.
drop brackets lower both the upper and lower the same amount in the same bracket, so, you must use stock length control arms or at least the same upper and lower arms from a lift kit. they need to be retrospective in length.
so you can't use a stock length upper and say an aftermarket lower for a 3.5 inch lift, otherwise you will push the bottom of the axle forward, leaving the top at stock length, therefor messing up your castor.
i guess you could use a matching set for a 3.5 inch kit to stretch your wheel base a tad. just as long as they're a match for length (compared to stock).
On small lifts, up to 3.5", one can totally manage with the stock arms. After that, one would need first the adjustable LCAs (to situate the axle in the middle of the well) and very quickly the adjustable UCAs (to control the pinion angle).
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From: Lantana, Fl
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.Slow
Originally Posted by yarom
Only difference between the RE and RC is the support brace. Re is longer. Otherwise one copied the other's design completely. Same metal thickness as well.
On small lifts, up to 3.5", one can totally manage with the stock arms. After that, one would need first the adjustable LCAs (to situate the axle in the middle of the well) and very quickly the adjustable UCAs (to control the pinion angle).
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From: Carrollton, GA
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6 4.0L High Output
Originally Posted by yarom
Only difference between the RE and RC is the support brace. Re is longer. Otherwise one copied the other's design completely. Same metal thickness as well.
On small lifts, up to 3.5", one can totally manage with the stock arms. After that, one would need first the adjustable LCAs (to situate the axle in the middle of the well) and very quickly the adjustable UCAs (to control the pinion angle).
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From: Lantana, Fl
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.Slow
Originally Posted by yarom
Only difference between the RE and RC is the support brace. Re is longer. Otherwise one copied the other's design completely. Same metal thickness as well.
On small lifts, up to 3.5", one can totally manage with the stock arms. After that, one would need first the adjustable LCAs (to situate the axle in the middle of the well) and very quickly the adjustable UCAs (to control the pinion angle).
Originally Posted by 94XjSport94
That was the other half of my question because I'm 2wd for now so pinion angle doesn't matter to me at this moment
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From: DE
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6 4.0
I have fixed lowers with factory uppers, I hate the pinion angle but it gets the job done for a smooth ride and still reliable. My lowers are longer than stock and that's why I believe my axle is pushed forward so much. I can get a picture later on to show you what it looks like
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Year: 1988
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So here are the pics, you can see the arms, axle position, and pinion angle. Not sure if my angle is horrible but it rides fine, sorry couldn't back up enough to get a whole wheel picture in my schools parking lot
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From: Carrollton, GA
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6 4.0L High Output
Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb
So here are the pics, you can see the arms, axle position, and pinion angle. Not sure if my angle is horrible but it rides fine, sorry couldn't back up enough to get a whole wheel picture in my schools parking lot