Nildnas

Hello everyone.

So I am in the process of building a daily/offroad rig right now. So obviously I'm going to need diffs in the future and of course I want to go with air lockers. But at $1000 I can't really afford those right now. So what I've been thinking is get an LSD for the rear for now and eventually upgrade to air lockers once I can.

So my question to you is:

Should I live with offroading with no diffs right now and go directly to air lockers once I can. Or do I get an LSD right now and upgrade to air lockers later?

Thank you for your time everyone.

Fred/N0AZZ

Welcome my friend!


Lot of questions need to be answered first are you lifted, larger tires, need to change gears right now or do you plan on any of these?


A larger tire requires a different gear, locker, carrier in the D30. Also a LSD isn't the best choice, a lunchbox might be better and cheaper for you short term.

Nildnas

Hello. I have a Chrysler 8.25 29 spline rear axle. And I will be putting 32s with a 4.5" lift on the Jeep

kirknd4spd

The second you lift one tire off the ground with an LSD, you'll think you have an open diff. I'd throw a lunchbox locker in it and call it a day. Personally, I'd just throw lunchbox lockers in both diffs and take the money saved by not having selectable lockers and throw it at making the suspension work better.

Fred/N0AZZ

For a 32" tire I would go with a 4.56 gear a rule of thumb is 31's-4.10 gear, 33's-4.56 gear that way your good to go up to a 35" tire if you ever want to.


I run 4.56's with 33 and 35" tires have 2 sets mounted with a 4 1/2" lift. I'm sure you know that you must change gears in the front at the same time as the rear. So if you want lockers do both at the same time, I can tell you a stock gear with larger tires suck big time.

Nildnas

Does the gearing change what lunchbox I will use?

And where would be the best place to get a new gearing from?

Nildnas

I was under the impression that I should if I only put in one locker for now I should do the rear first. Is that true.

Tonis506

You can do whichever you want. Some people swear buy only front or only rear but it depends on what you are doing and what you want. Either one will make a huge difference. I would do front first but that's just me. I got my gears from rwkhaus on here. He sells lunchboxes too. And you will need a new carrier for the front for the gears.

Fred/N0AZZ

I bought my gears package from Rustys Off Road both sets D30/Chy 8.25 with master install kits (the better ones) my installer said that installed my gears/lockers.


The gearing will change the lunchbox you get most times they go 3.73 and up or down for the change. You could install 2 lunchbox lockers for much less than 1 air locker and do quite well with your XJ off road/on road.

SeriousOffroad

If you're going to re-gear, don't do it twice. That's simply throwing money away.

If you really want an ARB but can't afford one right now....save up until you can afford one. By doing so you'll get the locker you want and the gears you want and pay for one installation.

FWIW,
I've got a free compressor offer with any ARB purchase going on until 6-15-2015. If you can't get one now...wait until they go on sale again.

nolanbalzarini

in the 8.25 there is no carrier break.
i ran a detroit in my 8.25 for many years, and when i took it to re gear it they did retain it.
then just run a lunch box up front because you can swap them into a low ratio (higher number) carrier when you regear
if you have a d 35. rip it out and put it in the trash.
if you have a 8.25 invest in a rear detroit first (before front locker) and enjoy it

sgtblamo

what's better detroit locker (more $$, but beefy) or a lunchbox? (never heard of one before) and where can one find this lunchbox?

nolanbalzarini

IMO a detroit is best for a rear locker.
for all you luchbox needs ----> (cheapest) http://lokka.com/site/
(tons of guys swear by these) https://www.aussielocker.com/ (from what i have heard these guys make the lokka)
http://www.powertrax.com/

Or you can google search dana 30 (or whatever) lunchbox locker.
good value. you can install one in your driveway. complete drop in to your existing hardware.
i would say that a elocker (what i did) is the only way to go in the front. but you can get 4 (!) lokkas for the price of 1 elocker

93_xjcherokee

If you have a d35, it is fine. Don't let guys tell you it is a pos and you should never run it. They are OK unless you run 35s or bigger. I ran a d35 on 31s and locker for over a year and I have no issues. And I wheel hard. Also, I have a friend that had a cj fully caged on 35s. He has air lockers and d30/35 combo and he wheels the hell out of it, he has never broke any axles. But as far as LSD and lockers go, I say lock both axles.

nolanbalzarini

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/please-help-1138370/
if you think its "ok", just go to youtube and put in dana 35 break and watch them turn to giblets and chowder for hours.
d35 is weak sauce. i would not enter it into the county fair because it is weak. you will not win a blue ribbon.