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Old 10-28-2012, 08:22 PM
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Hi, my name is Adam is use to be a subaru enthusiast but decided to try jeeps out. I bought a 1996 zj with rustys 5.5 long arm. A few months later it was hit in a intersection by someone not paying attention.
Luckily I found a stock clean 2000 xj. I drove it stock awhile then just 2 weeks ago I decided to add a lift. I ended up with the rc 3" add-a-leaf w/ 31's. Im bored.
Now to my point, I would like to fit 33's I have my fenders cut to the max. Should I buy a bigger lift (4.5) or can I upgrade the one I have with (uca/lca),track bar, shocks, acos and blocks? The tcase needs to be upgraded if I go any higher. I like my 242 it works great but the aftermarket support and sye kits I dont really like. Is it worth to swap in a 231? I have $1800.00 I wouldnt mind putting into the jeep.
The jeep is my DD and I take it out every now and then on the weekends. Can you guys give me some input.
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33s on 3in lift look awesome as hell. So with 1800 I would get new 33s, extend the bumpstops and put the rest into the tcase since you are saying you want to swap it anyways and still have some money left over. Dont do blocks, get longer shackles if you decide on4.5. At 3in you could just keep te tcase you have with no SYE and put the rest of the cash into your axles or a winch and a bumper or whatever. Some many options.

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My buddy has 265/75/16 (32.988" i think)tires and I rolled them next to my truck and it looked like it would hit the back bumper a lil but I do have 15's on. is the d30lp that bad of a axle for a dd and light trail wheeling on weekend? I guess im asking on how I should properly upgrade it so I can run 33" without selling the lift I just bought.
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Cut and fold the quarter panel.
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My buddy has 265/75/16 (32.988" i think)tires and I rolled them next to my truck and it looked like it would hit the back bumper a lil but I do have 15's on. is the d30lp that bad of a axle for a dd and light trail wheeling on weekend? I guess im asking on how I should properly upgrade it so I can run 33" without selling the lift I just bought.
I have an lp 30 on 33s and wheel kind of hard. So far so good, I think you run into problems with driveshaft geometry at higher lifts with it. I would wheel it till/if it breaks, but I would never dump money into it since hp30s are like 200$. So if you want to regear and get a locker, just get an hp30 before you do all that. Do a cut and fold for the rear, plenty people run 33s on 3in. Oh, and if you just roll the tires next to the Jeep the tire is not centered to the middle of the hub. All the height difference goes upwards that way.

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Id say take it out and wheel it. You can go pretty far with a 3" lift and 31's. Put a lunchbox locker in if you want to go further. Maybe a winch, and some sliders and or skid plates.

The minute you step up to bigger tires you'll want to regear and that's big money.
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If I get a aussie or spartan for the d30 should I upgrade the the shafts to or find a hp and swap to that and upgrade? Would it be wise to upgrade my steering?track bar/HD tie rod and drag link?
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If I get a aussie or spartan for the d30 should I upgrade the the shafts to or find a hp and swap to that and upgrade? Would it be wise to upgrade my steering?track bar/HD tie rod and drag link?
I am looking for a hp30 to swap in before I start locking/ gearing , but thats just me. For 31s tough I would lock the lp30 and call it a day.

Pic of 3in on 33s by the way.
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Id say take it out and wheel it. You can go pretty far with a 3" lift and 31's. Put a lunchbox locker in if you want to go further. Maybe a winch, and some sliders and or skid plates.

The minute you step up to bigger tires you'll want to regear and that's big money.
You just had to post 33's on a 3" lift That looks really good. I guess I'm getting:
Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac 31's ($720 installed)
aussie or spartan locker (idk enough about them yet to choose) ($350?)
That leaves around $800 left that I dont know what to upgrade.


Also could I have vibrations from having a OE endlink? My kit never came with them
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Hey. I lifted my 95 XJ 4 inches and only just started to get vibration at the drive shaft uni joint. I just dropped my transfer case an inch with spacers and it's all good. It was simple as, made the spacers myself. You should be fine at 3 inches tho. I have 31's and a rear Aussie locker and am very happy, didn't need to regear at that size. I do dream of 33's and 4:11 gears every night tho....
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Originally Posted by IW395
You just had to post 33's on a 3" lift That looks really good. I guess I'm getting:
Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac 31's ($720 installed)
aussie or spartan locker (idk enough about them yet to choose) ($350?)
That leaves around $800 left that I dont know what to upgrade.


Also could I have vibrations from having a OE endlink? My kit never came with them
800$ leftover, huh? If it was me I would get rocksliders and a tcase skid.
3in on 31s with a locked front and armor underneath makes for a very capable Jeep.
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Well the guy on the phone told me the wrong price, I knew that price was to good to be true. Now it's $903.88 installed 31x10.5x15 Goodyear wrangler duratracs. So I either need to re budget and get the tires or find a different set of tires.
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Originally Posted by IW395
Well the guy on the phone told me the wrong price, I knew that price was to good to be true. Now it's $903.88 installed 31x10.5x15 Goodyear wrangler duratracs. So I either need to re budget and get the tires or find a different set of tires.
Ouch, my 35 KM2's where only $950 installed with no questions asked replacement warranty for punctures... Discount tire has had the best prices for me. they will also match or beat others prices. Even online prices with shipping

I would strongly recommend 33's if your thinking 31's. its always a month or two then Wanting bigger lol

if you want 4" of lift I would do a shackle relocation bracket in the rear and a 1" spacer up front giving you 1" inch all around, and a better ride as well as flex in the back.

either way as stated above, locker and sliders will greatly improve the capability and re-leave worry of beating your body. If you can work it in Frame stiffeners are a great investment for the longevity of the vehicle.
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Ouch, my 35 KM2's where only $950 installed with no questions asked replacement warranty for punctures... Discount tire has had the best prices for me. they will also match or beat others prices. Even online prices with shipping

I would strongly recommend 33's if your thinking 31's. its always a month or two then Wanting bigger lol

if you want 4" of lift I would do a shackle relocation bracket in the rear and a 1" spacer up front giving you 1" inch all around, and a better ride as well as flex in the back.

either way as stated above, locker and sliders will greatly improve the capability and re-leave worry of beating your body. If you can work it in Frame stiffeners are a great investment for the longevity of the vehicle.
I would get 33's but I dont want to be rough on the trans and re gearing is out of my budget atm. tirerack has them for 760 hopefully they take that price.
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Originally Posted by IW395
I would get 33's but I dont want to be rough on the trans and re gearing is out of my budget atm. tirerack has them for 760 hopefully they take that price.
they will if you add shipping. as they don't pay for shipping within there company, and you would have to pay shipping if you bought it threw tire rack, so they match to total price...

I hear ya, it wouldn't be to bad on the trans, 33's are ok with stock gearing, but your MPG and power will be a bit worse lol. I do agree regearing will be needed/wanted with 33's. 32's may be the happy medium for what you want.... but 31's are plenty capable. I have been surprised with what some people do with 31's locked.


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