Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

motor build questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-12-2012, 08:25 AM
  #1  
XJ6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
XJ6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Waynesville NC
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1985
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5
Default motor build questions

I found a 267 small block bored and new heads and cam and im wantin to drop it in my jeep, what tranny will i need? My AX 5 aint gonna cut it
Old 11-12-2012, 09:26 AM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
mdnov's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Not trying to burst your bubble or enthusiasm, the 267 is, for lack of a better word, a boat anchor. Look at any small block building book, they say stay away from the 267. It does however have the same outer dimensions as all other Chevy small blocks. I would go with another engine. As far as the transmission, the AX 15 could work as long as you keep your foot out of the radiator.
Old 11-12-2012, 09:34 AM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
mdnov's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

BTW. I had a 267 in a 1979 El Camino. Pontiac had a similar engine. The Pontiac 301. Another boat anchor.
Old 11-12-2012, 09:52 AM
  #4  
Member
 
cdhebert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gonzales, Louisiana
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Yep. Worst motor ever to do a sbc conversion with. Even a junkyard 305 would be a significantly better choice...

FYI - That 301 was about 100 horsepower normally aspirated. They made a turbo version of it in some of the "pace car" edition firebirds that was still a total piece of garbage.
Old 11-12-2012, 09:55 AM
  #5  
Member
 
cdhebert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gonzales, Louisiana
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by mdnov
BTW. I had a 267 in a 1979 El Camino. Pontiac had a similar engine. The Pontiac 301. Another boat anchor.
Around that year range, they made some Malibu and El Camino "GT's" with the 267. I'm pretty sure they were sub-150hp also. Terrible...
Old 11-12-2012, 10:08 AM
  #6  
Member
 
cdhebert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gonzales, Louisiana
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by XJ6
I found a 267 small block bored and new heads and cam and im wantin to drop it in my jeep, what tranny will i need? My AX 5 aint gonna cut it
Another note. Food for thought.
The 267 has a displacement of 4.3L. You can get the same displacement from a GM 4.3L V-6. Probably much easier to stuff 2 less cylinders in that engine bay if your are dead set on a swap.
You could stroke the 4.0 and get more displacement than a 267 and not have to fab or convert anything. Your Jeep will never be a race car anyway.
Good luck!
Old 11-12-2012, 10:50 AM
  #7  
XJ6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
XJ6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Waynesville NC
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1985
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5
Default

It is a 267 bored to take a 327 piston with a 283 crank 58cc 400 heads 498/501 lift cam Holley 600cfm carb, i mean besides it being a boat anchor what is so bad i have a 2.5 with a stock carb it cant be worse than that
Old 11-12-2012, 12:03 PM
  #8  
Member
 
cdhebert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gonzales, Louisiana
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by XJ6
It is a 267 bored to take a 327 piston with a 283 crank 58cc 400 heads 498/501 lift cam Holley 600cfm carb, i mean besides it being a boat anchor what is so bad i have a 2.5 with a stock carb it cant be worse than that
The 327 piston is a full .5" bigger than the 267's. That's a lot of metal removed from your block (depending on the year of the block, it might not even be possible). Also, the 283 has a shorter stroke than the 267 (by a lot). You would be effectively building a small journal 302, although the strangest way possible, I think. It would also have the terribly weak bottom end of a 267.
Unless you know this guy to be honest, I would do some serious digging into this engine before you trust those specs.
I'm not saying it can't be done - I would question, why?
You have so many options for upgrades from a 2.5 that wouldn't require nearly as much work.
Old 11-12-2012, 01:21 PM
  #9  
XJ6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
XJ6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Waynesville NC
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1985
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5
Default

What more can be done to a 2.5?
Old 11-12-2012, 02:00 PM
  #10  
Member
 
canada_man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

4.0 TB, Upgrade injectors, cold air intake, cat back exaust, etc. There are tons of upgrades you can make to your 2.5 to get more out of it. Just do some searching on the forum
Old 11-12-2012, 02:22 PM
  #11  
XJ6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
XJ6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Waynesville NC
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1985
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5
Default

Originally Posted by canada_man
4.0 TB, Upgrade injectors, cold air intake, cat back exaust, etc. There are tons of upgrades you can make to your 2.5 to get more out of it. Just do some searching on the forum
If it was fuel injected i'd fo that, thats how my newer wrangler is set up, my 85 cherokee is a carb buddy
Old 11-12-2012, 02:26 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Luke95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Plymouth CT
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

4.0 swap?
Old 11-13-2012, 05:39 AM
  #13  
XJ6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
XJ6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Waynesville NC
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1985
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5
Default

Nah i mean i like the 4.0 reniux more than the HO version but i want something different, cause where im from every cherokee has a 4.0 practically and its nothing special its between the motor i mentioned and a 302
Old 11-13-2012, 05:53 AM
  #14  
Seasoned Member
 
rollingstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 93
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 5.2
Default

But since you have a 2.5, you have 4.10's in your differentials. I bet if you did the 4.0 swap, you'd be one of the only ones with a 4.0 and 4.10's.
Old 11-13-2012, 09:17 PM
  #15  
XJ6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
XJ6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Waynesville NC
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1985
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5
Default

Okay come at.me with this, more power out of an 85 carb 2.5l. How can i achive this?


Quick Reply: motor build questions



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 AM.