Guess it comes down to $$$ A lokka will get you threw a lot more than a dream of an ARB will.

OX's simplistic design wins my vote of selectable lockers

 

Kinda looking towards the e locker seems like it would be awesome plus it's a little cheaper than an Arb?

Anyone want to give me quotes

 

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f10/ea...avings-178697/

 

Thing is every locker can break, every axle, etc....

If a certain axle has a weak carrier. Then upgrading that part with a stronger one might be a good idea.

but just because lunch box lockers are cheap, in no way means they are inferior to full case lockers.

Spending more money does not make anything stronger. Its simply spending more money

 

full carrier lockers are stronger by design.

Lunchbox lockers apply all the torque onto a center pin that's touching a cast carrier, which was not designed for that kind of abuse.

They work just fine for most, but if you are really going to hammer down with largee tire, specially in the rear, and you done want to start splitting carriers in half or snapping center pins... Then I would avoid lunchbox lockers in the rear


I'm not saying they are junk. But full carrier lockers like arb, Detroit, Eaton, ox, are stronger (notice I am not including ected in that list)

 

I am actually really thinking of going with Elockers front and rear now!

I already ordered my 4:88 gears with master install kits and a new carrier for d30....

Will be ordering chromoly shafts soon so I figured like ppl posted above might as well go and do it all....

 

For once I agree with you. LOL The application I was assuming was with 35's. And the rear does have more stress. Mine is welded so I tend to forget.

 

If you are going to put elockers front and rear then you don't need a new carrier for the dana 30....

 

Yup I know....but when I ordered all this I was going to run the lock right locker that I have already, but now I have decided to sell it and just put that money towards an e locker.

ppl keep telling me to go with air lockers for some reason though arb or yukon

 

I install about 15 lockers a month. I have NEVER heard a customer that got a Air locker say "Daym I wish I would Not have gotten that air locker and should have gotten a lunch box". BUT I hear about once a month a customer that got a lunch box say "Daym I wish I would have just done it right and did a air locker"...

In something as old and typically basic as a XJ, its not as common to want comfort and have the $$ available to make it that way, over spending the $$ needed to do so. Most with a XJ just want a locker, and so be it. Doesn't matter if it pops or bangs, or pushes when cornering hard, or the wife wonders wtf was that, while driving. The inserts are great for that.

But in the opposite side of the spectrum, the JK. If I install a spartan or lockright ect in the rear of a JK, its Rare. Most bought the JK because they wanted something quiet, nice and comfy. SO a insert just kills that, and is typ not strong enough for a 37-40" tire these things get regularly. So a Zip or ARB is very common and will last 'em a life time.

Now as for the E-Locker. Do a little searching of what customers and end user say about them. You will see many that have had the electric actuators fail, or internals. Ok, so every locker has that possibility of something failing right. BUT now comes the reason to just never get an E-Locker. If a E-Locker fails, try to get a hold of someone in Eaton aftermarket and get a part for the e-locker. Yeah right... Not to mention the rear D44 and some others are still only a 2 pinion internal design. Weak. I dont understand why they redid the D30 to a 4 pinion, yet never got to the D44 to make it on par with most all other quality lockers.

Now as for air. ARB has been around for Ever, and Yukon has produced a great copy, the Zip. When installed (thats the hard part for most) it will last you about 5-10yr before a Oring Might fail, Might. So it to does have a poss part that needs replacing. BUT when needed, you can call and talk to someone on the phone that is prepared to help within about 45sec. And get you any replacement part out in the mail same day.

Even better though is that you can get 2 Air lockers, and a compressor for less then 2 e-lockers. Not to mention for only 100$ more you get on board air out of it.

Then factor in the fact that Yukon gives you a 6 year warranty on the locker, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. They dont care about what size tire, they dont care if your racing King of The Hammers, they just cover the locker for 6 years! And for the first 2 years If the locker does fail for ANY reason, they also cover up to 2000$ of collateral Damage and or labor, needed to get it back to the way it should be.

So factoring in all the above. I cant see any reason not to do the strongest locker and most reliable locker the ARB, unless you can get a Yukon Zip for your fitment, and save 300$ ea or so and get a awesome warranty.

If you cant get the above then the E-Locker would be the 3rd choice for me, and would guess most should see it like that.

Then the mechanical lockers - Detroit or better yet Yukon Grizzly (with a very similar warranty to their Zip for 100$ less than a detroit).

Then the inserts if you just dont care about the overall strength Or dont have the money for a full case locker.

Again, search for real world experiences. Not some salesman telling you, or some manufacture blowing smoke and mirror to get you to buy their products, etc. Search online and ask those around the camp fire.

And one last thing that i have to mention. Air line failures are install error. No other way to describe em. If the installer routes the air line next to exhaust, or so that it rubs on something every time the axle moves (thats about 1000 times a miles by the way), or around the steering shaft, etc, then of course it will fail. BUT, install the air line correctly and it should last you 10-15yrs. And if your really good and you sleeve it with 3/8" air hose (about 15$) then you can even route it places that are questionable, and Never have a cut line.

I did not factor in OX only because they only recently came out with a worth design, I feel. The air cyl actuator in the cover. But they are $$ and still little warranty.

 

A full case detroit locker is an excellent option for the rear.

Its priced between a lunchbox and a selectable (like ARB) and is super strong and reliable .... and you'll hardly know its there.

I've run Aussie, ARB, and Detroit. All three have their place. In the front, with smaller tires and a tight budget, I'd just do a lunchbox locker. In the front, on bigger tires, I'd do an ARB (although they can be finicky).

In the rear .... Detroit all the way.

 

Pick any locker and your find people that like 'em and people that don't.

I've installed ARB's and removed them in favor of elockers and detroits.
I've yanked blown-up detroits, arb's, lunchbox lockers, and yes even an elocker.

Any part from any manufacturer can and will break at the most inopportune time.

I run elockers, never had a problem. I may not have sold million of 'em....but I haven't had any warranty issues or breakage complaints either.

 

I like the fact that with arb or Yukon air locker I can air up tires but don't like the price lol....

E locker is easy and simple also a little cheaper

Lunch box is cheap.

I do have a lunch box locker already I was thinking originally of running a lock right in the d30 and a Detroit in rear.

What do yall think about the Detroit locker or Yukon grizzly in rear and a Yukon zip locker up front? that would be a lot closer to my budget for sure

 

What do y'all think about that ox air locker that seems to be the best option ? Cable, air, or even a fitting where u can lock them your self

 

One hit on the actuator and your done....