From my experience dropping the pitman arm a little bit won't hurt.. Yes its good to be parallel. But close works fine. And his problem of course is the angle. Putting severe stress on the tie rod ends. Even the new ones will wear out quickly if he does not change the angle.

Poly spacers will help the wear, until they wear out.


You are right, lowering it will help a lot. Hopefully he lowers it.

 

Lots-o-fail here.
You cannot tell the condition of a TRE from this or any picture.

The drag link and track bar are paralell, so adding a DPA

Steering Stabilzers (dampeners) are valved 50/50. Unlike shock absorbers, they have the same resistance during extension and compression. Moving it from one-rod to the other will have no effect on anything at all.

Stock steering? Where do you see stock steering?

 

Ah, a good ole holycaveman fail. What a great way to start the day

 

I have a video in the first post too.

 

Thanks for all the info and responses guys! And yes I want to remove the spacers. I just measured them and they look like 3" in the back and maybe 2.5"-3" in the front.

Will i need new shorter shocks if i lower it? I have about 5-6" of shock shaft showing.

Here are some pics

Front




Rear

 

You should get new shocks. May I ask what size tires your running and could you take a picture of your whole jeep.

 

I saw the video, same answer.
The video shows Tie-Rod roll and that does not mean the ends are bad or in need of replacement.

Yes you will need to get the correct length shocks for your rig once you remove the spacers/blocks.

I'm sure holycaveman meant well, he simply not quite on target.

 

I know, just busting his *****

 

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/wh...-why-do-65873/

 

Im pretty sure they are bad, i can roll the bar easily with my hands, a tie rod should be VERY hard to move, if move at all by hand. They also have some play in/out.

The tires are 33/12.5/15 Goodyear Duratracs

Here is a pic of the whole jeep

 

The best way to see if a tie rod is bad is to put your hand on the tie rod and with the tires on the ground have someone steer the steering wheel back and forth. You will feel play in the rod end between the end casing and the ball if its bad. Just because you can roll the end forward and back does not mean it is bad, the primary direction of movement is left and right. When checking this check all 4 ends for play, if you can feel wobble side to side you need to replace them.

 

Sorry man. My advice was spot on. And if the op follows it his problem will be helped.

I am not going to start anything because quite frankly its useless on here.

I get paid to fix these kinds of problems. Monday through Friday. Now if you fellows would care to actually listen to what I am saying and look at what is going on here instead of just throwing out a "fail". The op may have a better chance at fixing this. Otherwise he will have to pay a shop to take care of it. And guess who will be fixing it then? That's right, me.

 

Nice jeep by the way.

To be certain of your tie rods watch them while someone moves the wheel back and forth. Its the easiest way to tell. Make sure the wheel gets turned past the point of roll, so the wheels actually move.


Yes it looks like you will need shocks. But the best way to tell is to lower it. Then unbolt the bottom part of the shock. See where it is when the spring is compressed, and extended. Then measure the total distance. That will tell you where you need to be.

Also from watching the video again, it looks as though your pitman arm is already a drop down one. So unfortunately you can't do much there. But I would check to make sure.

 

Look at the steering dampener. Think about what is actually going on.

If he switches it like I said. It will help counter the problem.

Also look at his TRE. Both of them and tell me what is missing? Its good sign of wear.

 

Now I'm not trying to be a dick or offend you here. I get paid to fix these kind of problems too. Monday through Saturday. I've got to say your advice was not good advice... He does not need a drop pitman arm with this steering setup, having your drag link at a different angle than your track bar causes bump steer. And if his steering was right he could take that stabilizer off and throw it away and still drive straight down the road with no slop. Just saying..