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For the headlight cover/defector thing. Going to have to scour the internet for this.
I have never seen these or anything like these before. They screw into some clips that you put on the bezel first, with the thumb screws you see in the picture first, and the bottom has a curve that goes under the header. Keeping everything in place. There is headlight protection stuff that I have seen online. But I can't comment about any of them. some examples.
Then DonP on this forum brought up the subject of length. Said anything more then 27mm won't fit. Well of course I did not even think about being concerned about the length. So of course the bulbs I ordered are 27.14mm. You can jam them in there the the bulb is literally pressing against the lens. Also amber still show through my white lens because of the one on the head. But no where near as offensive to me as the regular amber bulbs showing through the white lens on the front.
So on to the good news. The non polarized bulbs work as they should. Also with LED's up front my turn signal indicators are not dimly glowing anymore with my headlights on. With the exception of them just being to long, oh and the amber showing through the white lens, best I can tell everything seems to be working as it should.
For the headlight cover/defector thing. Going to have to scour the internet for this.
yes x2 I was looking at the wire guards, but those look nicer -- How much were they?--- I think he's asking: What were your search terms/ Item description in the ad/ offer , where you found them? (am I right?)Also--I saw these on eBay awhile back, but I was broke, Now I can't find them at all (IDK if China has Junk Yards, but No used stuff seems available)
yes x2 I was looking at the wire guards, but those look nicer -- How much were they?--- I think he's asking: What were your search terms/ Item description in the ad/ offer , where you found them? (am I right?)Also--I saw these on eBay awhile back, but I was broke, Now I can't find them at all (IDK if China has Junk Yards, but No used stuff seems available)
Almost $12 US with almost $20 US in shipping. From somewhere in England. I Google used cherokee sport parts on ebay. Pick one. Click Refine Results at the top. Then choose used and worldwide on the column on the left. I just came across them. Contacted the guy and he said he was willing to ship to the States. I am constantly on Ebay and Craigslist.
Perfect length and no amber showing. But here is something I did not notice when I purchased the second set.
They have a beam angle of 220 degrees. The first ones had a beam angle of 360 degrees. Now to me they look just fine.
Will try to remember to check them out after dark.
I tried to Google beam angles and all I saw was a bunch of technical jargon that went right over my head
If anybody thinks the beam angle is a problem please chime in.
Also my turn signal indicators no longer dimly glow when I turn on my headlights. Frankly I thought it was the flasher doing this. My guess is having both regular and LED bulbs was causing this.
Couple of shots to show how the amber showed through with regular 194's and how they don't with the new amber LED 194's.
So DonP found a white LED for the third brake light. Appears the rear bulb is a 922. Bought a 10 pack from Amazon. Gotta love the people on this forum. Offered to send me a couple bulbs. I received them today. Even sent me a PM with the link to the bulbs. Unfortunately the link is showing different bulbs. So I can't give you a link to the exact bulbs. I think these will work though:
Now from what I read these should be red LED's because we are putting them behind a red lens. But they light up. So I am going to roll with it for now. Going to poke around and see if I can find a red one and also something for the license plate light.
He did say that a few out of the 10 pack did not work. The first one I tried would only flicker. Thinking it was just not tight in the connector. The second one I tried appears to work fine. Time will tell.
Couple shots for you.
The color spectrum of an incandescent bulb is different than color spectrum of a white LED. This impacts the color LED you should purchase, but the easy general rule is that the bulb should match the color of the lens that covers the bulb.
Clear Lens: Depending on the application, either a white or an amber bulb can be used behind a clear lens.
Red Lens: Always choose a red LED bulb behind a red lens. If you place a white LED behind a red tail/brake lens, there will be too much orange/yellow and the light will appear pink/orange.
Amber Lens: Always choose an amber LED bulb behind an amber lens. If you place a white LED behind an amber lens, the light will appear greenish.
I thought I would post this because I went to look at the white bulb that is behind the red third brake light at night.
You can see how it does have a slight amber tint. But nothing drastic IMO. Frankly I think it is OK. Galloping horse and all. Still gets the point across. LOL.
I am going to try to see if I can find a red LED that does work here though.
So SatiricalHen pointed out that he thought a 194 was what the third brake light used. So I had the amber 194 LED's lying around that I can't use so I figured I would give it a try to see what's what. Worked and fit fine. So while I don't believe that there is anything really wrong with putting the white ones that DonP sent me in the interest of being thorough I bought this:
So the only thing that is left is the license plate bulb. And SatiricalHen was right about it being a tight fit and a 194 working in there too. Cause I believe it to be a 168 there but if you look at the packaging at the link above it also says 168. The Zevo 194 looks tight. Either it is right up against the plastic or like a sheet of paper away from it. The Zevo 194's are longer then the regular 194. So I don't know if you could use a Zevo bulb, 194 or 168, in there. Not sure how hot LED's get and would hate to get a burn mark in the lens or maybe possible crack in colder weather from being to close. The reason that I am trying to use the Slyvanias is that they can be sourced locally. If you ever need one quick. The non polarity 194's I had to use in the front side markers kind of screwed up that idea.
So I have been having a problem with an LED for the license plate light. It is a 168 or a 194. The Slyvania 194 is just a hair to long. Looks like it is right up on the lens or a sheet of paper away from it. I ordered these:
They are shorter but because of the width these are also right up on the lens. Anybody who has taken that lens know how the bulb does not go straight in but is angled down into the lens. So because of that the width is causing it not to fit comfortable. Thinking of trying these:
Thing is I don't know how much it matters. Will the bulb being right up on the lens generate enough it to cause a burn over time? Could it generate enough heat to crack the lens in extreme cold because of the heat generated? Best I can tell is that LED's don't generate much heat. But would it matter anyway?
If anybody out there has a bulb they have used for the license plate light with a part number that you feel worked fine could you please let me know of it. Also if anybody has any thoughts of my real or imagined heat concerns feel free to chime in to.
EDIT: the CHSML really needs to be modified and have a 3156-style bulb installed to be bright enough. I just found the most powerful T10 socket LED I could find for now.
EDIT: the CHSML really needs to be modified and have a 3156-style bulb installed to be bright enough. I just found the most powerful T10 socket LED I could find for now.
You sure you don't have that bulb jammed in there? Cause I think that is too long to fit comfortably. That one at the link is over an 1". The 168 that is in there is 7/8".
I have never seen these or anything like these before. They screw into some clips that you put on the bezel first, with the thumb screws you see in the picture first, and the bottom has a curve that goes under the header. Keeping everything in place. There is headlight protection stuff that I have seen online. But I can't comment about any of them. some examples.
Coincidentally I had just found this while looking for something similar for my 91 XJ. The product description doesn't match the photo (says it's for a WK but shows a photo of a late model XJ), but the photo seems pretty close to the ones you found on Ebay. https://www.quadratec.com/products/75535_7002_07.htm
They are smoked, but maybe this is a good starting place to find clear ones? According to the photo they are AVS (autoventshade) brand. I tried searching on the Lund website for some clear ones since Autoventshade is a Lund brand and nothing came up.
You sure you don't have that bulb jammed in there? Cause I think that is too long to fit comfortably. That one at the link is over an 1". The 168 that is in there is 7/8".
Might be, but unlike incandescent (at this amperage), the LED can sit against the housing ok since there is nearly no heat. Lights up the plate fine for my standards considering its a gooberment requirement not a safety one.
Might be, but unlike incandescent (at this amperage), the LED can sit against the housing ok since there is nearly no heat. Lights up the plate fine for my standards considering its a gooberment requirement not a safety one.
I scoffed an extra license plate light lens. Might try to run the Sylvania Zevo 164 white bulb which is right up against the lens at some point then. But see the next post.
09-07-2018, 03:08 PM
