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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:07 AM
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If the torque specs call for lubrication, then use it. If not, don't.

From my FSM:
SERVICE PROCEDURES
WHEEL INSTALLATION
The wheel studs and nuts are designed for specific
applications. They must be replaced with equivalent
parts. Do not use replacement parts of lesser quality
or a substitute design. All aluminum and some steel
wheels have wheel stud nuts which feature an
enlarged nose. This enlarged nose is necessary to
ensure proper retention of the aluminum wheels.
NOTE: Do not use chrome plated lug nuts with
chrome plated wheels.
Before installing the wheel, be sure to remove any
build up of corrosion on the wheel mounting surfaces.
Ensure wheels are installed with good metal-to-metal
contact. Improper installation could cause loosening
of wheel nuts. This could affect the safety and handling
of your vehicle.
To install the wheel, first position it properly on
the mounting surface. All wheel nuts should then be
tightened just snug. Gradually tighten them in sequence to the proper torque specification (Fig. 5).
Never use oil or grease on studs or nuts.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
Sounds like BS. Got a reference for this? Torque != clamping force

The Tire Industry Association has provided me with the information. Torque and many other factors result in clamping force, but torque alone does not guarantee clamping force. When a lab used a Skidmore gauge and apllied 480 foot lbs on a dry stud and lug nut, the clamping force generated was 27,000 lbs. When 30wt oil was applied to the stud only 470 foot lbs of torque generated 30,000 pounds of clamping force. With the nut lubed with 30wt oil and torqued to 482 foot lbs the clamping force was 40,000 lbs. With both the stud and nut lubed the clamping force was 46,000 lbs at 476 foot lbs ot torque applied. When anti-seize was applied to the stud and torqued to 488 foot lbs the clamping force dropped to 25,000 lbs. So as you can see, torque is not a guarantee of clamping force, many other factors come into play.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
The Tire Industry Association has provided me with the information. Torque and many other factors result in clamping force, but torque alone does not guarantee clamping force. When a lab used a Skidmore gauge and apllied 480 foot lbs on a dry stud and lug nut, the clamping force generated was 27,000 lbs. When 30wt oil was applied to the stud only 470 foot lbs of torque generated 30,000 pounds of clamping force. With the nut lubed with 30wt oil and torqued to 482 foot lbs the clamping force was 40,000 lbs. With both the stud and nut lubed the clamping force was 46,000 lbs at 476 foot lbs ot torque applied. When anti-seize was applied to the stud and torqued to 488 foot lbs the clamping force dropped to 25,000 lbs. So as you can see, torque is not a guarantee of clamping force, many other factors come into play.
Good info. Is there an article I can reference?

I've been using Permatex on mine since day one, the salt up here makes lug nuts very difficult to work with. Have never noticed any strangeness and always torque to 100 lb-ft on aluminum Ecco rims.

Not advocating, just explaining my situation.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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It is info from a training work book that I have at work.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Cool thanks
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