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RoyalXJ 10-17-2011 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Zj heep (Post 1262354)
I would love some pics of that I'm about to put a 44 in the front of my zj.

here's my steering on my 44

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...9-10174542.jpg

Zj heep 10-17-2011 08:14 PM

here's my steering on my 44

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Is that full hydro? I'm not seeing the drag link.

SeriousOffroad 10-17-2011 08:17 PM

Mine:
http://i55.tinypic.com/167ur9s.jpg

RoyalXJ 10-17-2011 09:13 PM

lol draglink is in plain sight. it goes from the pitman arm to a hi steer arm on the passenger side knuckle.

the track bar looks like it doesnt exist though but its dead parallel and behind the draglink

Zj heep 10-17-2011 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by RoyalXJ
lol draglink is in plain sight. it goes from the pitman arm to a hi steer arm on the passenger side knuckle.

the track bar looks like it doesnt exist though but its dead parallel and behind the draglink

Ok I was wondering Whear the track bar was. Very clean.

freegdr 10-18-2011 03:25 AM

if you wallets fat theres thishttp://www.rocky-road.com/xjott.html

PingPong 10-18-2011 08:34 AM

I would suggest looking into a WJ knuckle swap. I was going to do this, but did a full width swap, and in fact collected most of the parts to do this swap.

here are write ups for the knukcle and brake upgrade

http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.ph...t=knuckle+swap

http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.ph...t=knuckle+swap

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489905

http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/bra...kles/index.htm

Here is a wirteup from JCR for a YJ but pretty much the same for xj

http://www.jcroffroad.com/WJ.html


I was going to source the needed fab parts locally, but JKS has them

http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/me...ode=CherokeeXJ


Enjoy your light tech reading:cheers:

OnlyInMyXJ22 10-18-2011 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by freegdr (Post 1264492)
if you wallets fat theres thishttp://www.rocky-road.com/xjott.html

If you want to buy an over priced kit with way to many parts...

Buy FrankZ's or JCR's kit...cheaper and straight to the point.

Gee oh Dee 10-18-2011 08:55 AM

Some very useful information here, thank you all for posting!!

PingPong 10-18-2011 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee (Post 1264703)
Some very useful information here, thank you all for posting!!


I spent months doing research on it...



Mow this is what my current setup looks like

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

Gee oh Dee 10-18-2011 11:52 AM

Where did you do the research? What are your references, if you don't mind me asking. I would like to do the same research and educate myself.

4.3L XJ 10-18-2011 12:11 PM

If you want to research high steer, NAXJA is a good source. A number of them there have converted to WJ steering and have write ups on it. It is all done with stock parts with a little modification of the rotors, including a caliper upgrade. What Ping has is a D44 high steer conversion, which can be purchased as a kit from Places like Tereflex or other sources. He also in his pic has spherical rod ends, which can be purchased anywhere. But the real trick is that if you have a daily driver, you need to remake the track bar to be the same length and mount properly at the frame end to keep it parallel with the drag length. Also you will need to remake the axle mount and raise it up about 5" and shift to the driver side by about 4". Here are the only pics I have of mine. But everything drives so much better now, as well as getting rid of mild death wobble I have been chasing for some time.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/IMG_1304.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/IMG_1303.jpg

Gorillaxj 10-18-2011 12:26 PM

Just cross over, works great, may go to high steer later and add the drivers side arm.. but as of now no need for it. Waggy D44 with chevy flat tops, chevy 1 ton TRE's...

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r...steerings3.jpg.

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r.../steering2.jpg

PingPong 10-18-2011 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee (Post 1264929)
Where did you do the research? What are your references, if you don't mind me asking. I would like to do the same research and educate myself.

I leterally did like 4.3 said searched the hell out of Naxja, and Pirate as well. Spent hours reading... then going to local parts store with dial calipers and other measureing devices. When I went to the d44 I stopped persuing doing the wj swap on my d30.

In fact I have a set of knuckles if interested.

sandaddik2 10-18-2011 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by FrankZ (Post 1262338)
Re-read my post.

You can't make fine adjustments to that configuration because the draglink mounts limit the amount of adjustment. The mount must be pointing up at all times.

In order to make any adjustments you've got to disconnect the draglink or remove the hardware from the tie-rod heims, loosen the jam nuts, rotate the heims 180 deg, then re-assemble everything and measure the toe-in. if not correct.....repeat the process over and over until it's right.

That is a PITA.

A tie-rod that is independent of the draglink can be rotated easily without any more work than loosening a couple jam nuts. 1 degree or 360 degrees, makes no difference.


how often do you have to do an alignment really to worry about it tho?
mine works just fine i have the same setup and i love it, never had it fail nor have i had any problems aligning mine :cheers:


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