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Old May 12, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Camber was off. Numerous users on here told me there is no adjustment for camber so that it meant I most likely have a bent front axle. Just wanted to post for future people with my problem don't listen to people that say this. Saying its a bent axle immediately is idiotic. Adjust your front steering to fix the camber. My front tires were "toed in" and adjusting this brought the camber back to normal. So I just wanted to squash some of the people giving others misleading info. A bent axle should be the very last assumption made when dealing with camber that is off is all I am saying. The space between the front of your front tires and the space between the back of your front tires should measure within 1/8 of an inch of one another, on my jeep I measure 49 7/8" from inside the front of my front tires and 50" on the back end of my front tires. Fixing your toe can fix the bind it is putting on your camber. You should however make sure that your front pinion angle is correct or near specs prior but in my case it was not necessary . I know my explanation isn't perfect All I am saying is don't let people discourage you by telling you it's a bent axle. Or that there is no adjustment.

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Old May 12, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Richieb9
Camber was off. Numerous users on here told me there is no adjustment for camber so that it meant I most likely have a bent front axle. Just wanted to post for future people with my problem don't listen to people that say this. Saying its a bent axle immediately is idiotic. Adjust your front steering to fix the camber. My front tires were "toed in" and adjusting this brought the camber back to normal. So I just wanted to squash some of the people giving others misleading info. A bent axle should be the very last assumption made when dealing with camber that is off is all I am saying. The space between the front of your front tires and the space between the back of your front tires should measure within 1/8 of an inch of one another, on my jeep I measure 49 7/8" from inside the front of my front tires and 50" on the back end of my front tires. Fixing your toe can fix the bind it is putting on your camber. As well as your pinion angle being off. I know my explanation isn't perfect Ll I am saying is don't let people discourage you by telling you it's a bent axle. Or that there is now adjustment.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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It's also a possibility that bad camber is affected by bad ball joints.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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I also have positive camber on both front wheels. I did the alignment myself in school a ways back and the toe was within spec but camber way off even the thrust angle was out of spec. Like 1.8 degrees. My teacher said something's worn out but he couldn't find anything wrong with the front end. The car vibrates at 65 mph but only at 65 mph. Does this sound like a bent axle?
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Old May 12, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Thanks in advance btw
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Old May 12, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by iron horse
I also have positive camber on both front wheels. I did the alignment myself in school a ways back and the toe was within spec but camber way off even the thrust angle was out of spec. Like 1.8 degrees. My teacher said something's worn out but he couldn't find anything wrong with the front end. The car vibrates at 65 mph but only at 65 mph. Does this sound like a bent axle?
Maybe worn ball joints? Lift both front tires off the ground put a hand on the top and the bottom of the tire and see if there is a lot of play there. I would think you have already tried this tho.
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:26 AM
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Yeah I'm pretty sure I did. It's been about two years but I'm sure I checked that. Even if it was ball joints wouldn't the car vibrate a lot and not just only at 65 mph?
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Old May 13, 2013 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by iron horse
I also have positive camber on both front wheels. I did the alignment myself in school a ways back and the toe was within spec but camber way off even the thrust angle was out of spec. Like 1.8 degrees. My teacher said something's worn out but he couldn't find anything wrong with the front end. The car vibrates at 65 mph but only at 65 mph. Does this sound like a bent axle?
Was alignment done on a machine ?
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Old May 13, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Was alignment done on a machine ?
Yeah a laser one. Pretty accurate lol
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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You can adjust camber by using adjustable ball joints. A bit complex but good results...
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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im confused on how you adjusted camber by adjusting your toe.
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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Also camber bushings not many know that...https://www.google.com/search?q=dana...w=1334&bih=737
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Old May 13, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI
im confused on how you adjusted camber by adjusting your toe.
same here, unless you had like an 11" short arm lift and your diff cover is pointing at the ground...
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Old May 13, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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From factory there is a slight camber offset when vechicle is lifted and caster and toe is changed it affects this .
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Old May 13, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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I am running zero toe .
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