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It looks like GE bought TruckLites- Better deal-$320 pr. free shipping DOT LEGAL!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-headlight-rectangle-5x7-GE-Nighthawk-Jeep-YJ-XJ-Truck-PAIR-of-lights-/221571831753?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3396b5d7c9&vxp=mtr
But like I said in some my other posts they are not blinding do the on coming drivers.
I don't believe you. I think you and your buddy who tested them are letting wishful thinking sway your judgment. There is no way those lamps are not annoying and blinding other drivers when they spray light everywhere like that. As has been mentioned, if you're getting flashed in traffic, those people are trying to tell you to stop that crap.
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I would bet that even if the only person with experience with them here is wrong and they do blind oncoming drivers, they still are not as blinding as the hundreds of HID kits out there that people slap on and don't aim correctly. Certainly aren't as bad as the tens of thousands of A-holes who won't turn off their brights at all and they probably aren't even as bothersome as some of the lights that new cars come with. Hell I get flashed all the time after passing a car simply because my lights are going straight through their back window.
I would bet that even if the only person with experience with them here is wrong and they do blind oncoming drivers, they still are not as blinding as the hundreds of HID kits out there that people slap on and don't aim correctly. Certainly aren't as bad as the tens of thousands of A-holes who won't turn off their brights at all and they probably aren't even as bothersome as some of the lights that new cars come with. Hell I get flashed all the time after passing a car simply because my lights are going straight through their back window.
Yup these are as bad as the fake *** hid lights from ebay. And people using their highbeams are just *******es. People should spend the few extra bucks for a quality set with a proper cutoff. Not waste time on these unless its a trailered only to the trails vehicle
I don't believe you. I think you and your buddy who tested them are letting wishful thinking sway your judgment. There is no way those lamps are not annoying and blinding other drivers when they spray light everywhere like that. As has been mentioned, if you're getting flashed in traffic, those people are trying to tell you to stop that crap.
After having them for almost a week now and having done a lot of night driving, I have not been flashed once.
I will do my best to take some pictures of the on coming light.
But you are right, all of yall are right. It's not as good as a clean cut off line.
But it's definitely not any where near as bad as a crappy HID installation.
The nubs are there to locate an alignment tool, basically a special bubble level with three legs on it. You could set the beam height in daylight in seconds. Back in the day, every corner garage had one. I haven't seen one in 30 years.
Even so, every DOT sealed beam still has them and every cop will know in an instant that it isn't DOT if they aren't there.
I was wondering about these when I first saw them and now I see why they are not DOT approved, and you get high beamed with them not because they are bright but because they have no vertical cutoff.
This is the vertical cutoff on a set of Truck-Lite LEDs.
What Black Mamba doesn't state is that these are illegal for street use for that exact reason. No DOT approval and nonexistent vertical cutoff. They are basically an offroad LED bar stuffed into a 5x7 housing.
Their website may claim they are DOT approved, but any DOT headlamp has to have DOT molded into the lens. Those do not, and there is no way they would be legal for the exact same reason why aftermarket HIDs in non projector housings are illegal. They throw light everywhere and blind oncoming drivers. And to say these are higher quality than Truck Lites is just silly, Truck Lite has been making lighting for years for Semis, military, and other severe duty applications.
Final nail in the coffin, these cost over $100 a pair more than Truck-Lites (assuming that $260 on their site is per light)
After having them for almost a week and having done a significant amount of night time driving I have not been high beamed once.
A vertical cut off is definitley ideal. I will try and get some quality pictures of these lights from an on coming view.
After having them for almost a week now and having done a lot of night driving, I have not been flashed once.
From your original post:
Originally Posted by DigitalBman
These things are brighter than most HID kits. Unfortunately they are so bright that even on low beam you may get flashed from other drivers.
So you know that they are a nuisance, yet you run them anyway. And when people call you out for it, you backpedal and claim that nobody has actually flashed you (which I really don't think I believe).
But what the hell right? **** all those other drivers. The road is there just for your benefit, and everybody else can just go to hell.
I generally do not like cops and generally think they need to just mind their own business, but I'm kinda hoping they harass those lamps right off your truck. I dislike rude drivers even more than cops.
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
From your original post:
So you know that they are a nuisance, yet you run them anyway. And when people call you out for it, you backpedal and claim that nobody has actually flashed you (which I really don't think I believe).
But what the hell right? **** all those other drivers. The road is there just for your benefit, and everybody else can just go to hell.
I generally do not like cops and generally think they need to just mind their own business, but I'm kinda hoping they harass those lamps right off your truck. I dislike rude drivers even more than cops.
So you've seen them in person? Personally been blinded by a set? Know this guy to be a liar? There is a difference between being excited about a product and saying "you may get flashed" then actually getting flashed. To me, there is no way that the residual light left by a few LEDS can be anywhere near as distracting as the light of a high intensity projected beam. The OP said the are not that bad. They say they meet dot regs. Maybe they just didn't want to spend the extra cash to mold "DOT" into the lens. To rip this guy apart based on nothing seems pretty rude to me .
I get blinded constantly. The roads are dark here, some mountain passes are pretty scary if you haven't been on them before and there are a lot of deer. People just leave their brights on quite frequently. I think I'm going to buy a set just so I can see while getting blinded. The XJ's lights are terrible... Always have been. Ide rather get these and spend the 150$ on something else.
FYI- They DOT stamp on a set of lights is not issued by the DOT. 90% of the time it is not even checked! It is simply the manufacturer "guarantee" that they produced the bulb according to DOT standards. The only time they ever get tested is if a large number of them are presumed to be not following the standard. If a manufacture is found to be out of compliance, they are forced to recall all of them. Basically my point is that the DOT stamp is on thousands of lights that don't meet the regs. (For example, it is illegal to have a light that is over 6000 Kelvin. Most of the blue HIDS you see are over that limit- some as far as 2000 over) Also the maximum is 65W high and 55W low. Also broken a lot. IF you want to know the rules/process, here they are.
Finally, the PERFECT L.E.D. Headlights for Cherokee XJ's!!
Originally Posted by extrashaky
From your original post:
So you know that they are a nuisance, yet you run them anyway. And when people call you out for it, you backpedal and claim that nobody has actually flashed you (which I really don't think I believe).
But what the hell right? **** all those other drivers. The road is there just for your benefit, and everybody else can just go to hell.
I generally do not like cops and generally think they need to just mind their own business, but I'm kinda hoping they harass those lamps right off your truck. I dislike rude drivers even more than cops.
Look man. I have admitted they aren't as good or as ideal as having a clean cut off line.
One of the things that help with these lights is that litterally less than half of the LED's inside the housing are on on low beam. I don't know for a fact, but the lights that are on on during low beam seem to be aimed slightly lower than the rest of the lights that come on on high beam.
The last thing I want to do is cause unsafe road conditions for other drivers.
I said I might in my first post before I had ever even driven more than down my road and back at night.
Now that I have driven a couple hundred miles at night this week with them (do to my trips to Alabama, I live in western florida) I don't think they bother people. I have genuinely yet to be flashed. If I had been flashed then I would say so. If I get flashed I will say so.
It's been a long time since my expectations have been blown away with a product. Let alone from a company I had never heard of before. I simply thought I would share my experiences. Isn't that the purpose of this forum?
Yes, I wish these had a super clean cut off line. And if, as time goes on, i start getting flashed for whatever reason or if I get pulled over for them (which I highly doubt) then I'll trash them and prolly get the truck lites.
But for now, they are different than any lights I have ever seen, I am impressed with the engineering behind the design and impressed with the company. It's not a perfect product, but it's pretty damn close.
Like I said before, I will try and get some . good pictures of the view from an on coming car.
Last edited by DigitalBman; 10-13-2014 at 01:05 AM.
So you've seen them in person? Personally been blinded by a set? Know this guy to be a liar? There is a difference between being excited about a product and saying "you may get flashed" then actually getting flashed. To me, there is no way that the residual light left by a few LEDS can be anywhere near as distracting as the light of a high intensity projected beam. The OP said the are not that bad. They say they meet dot regs. Maybe they just didn't want to spend the extra cash to mold "DOT" into the lens. To rip this guy apart based on nothing seems pretty rude to me .
I get blinded constantly. The roads are dark here, some mountain passes are pretty scary if you haven't been on them before and there are a lot of deer. People just leave their brights on quite frequently. I think I'm going to buy a set just so I can see while getting blinded. The XJ's lights are terrible... Always have been. Ide rather get these and spend the 150$ on something else.
FYI- They DOT stamp on a set of lights is not issued by the DOT. 90% of the time it is not even checked! It is simply the manufacturer "guarantee" that they produced the bulb according to DOT standards. The only time they ever get tested is if a large number of them are presumed to be not following the standard. If a manufacture is found to be out of compliance, they are forced to recall all of them. Basically my point is that the DOT stamp is on thousands of lights that don't meet the regs. (For example, it is illegal to have a light that is over 6000 Kelvin. Most of the blue HIDS you see are over that limit- some as far as 2000 over) Also the maximum is 65W high and 55W low. Also broken a lot. IF you want to know the rules/process, here they are.
Thanks for having my back! I really appreciate it!
As I said in my reply to "extrawobbly", I now have a couple hundred miles of night time driving under my belt with these lights and have yet to be flashed.
I made the statement in my original post after only one trip down my street and back.
Also, before you purchase a set let me get some good pictures of the view from an on coming car. These lights versus halogen. Unfortunately I don't have a vehicle with HID's to compare with as well.
Judge for yourself after I get those pictures posted!
10-12-2014, 12:22 PM
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