OOdynamite

So I was gonna have a shop put in a HnT SYE, but they said they don't do that and that the IRO kit will vibrate worse then my jeep does now. Sounds like a crock of crap to me. So he said an AA SYE would only be 200, sounded good to me. Then he said installed with a Quiglly custom DS it would be 900!!! I asked how much the DS was, he said 400!!! So I asked if I could just get a stock front XJ DS and have them put it in, he said yes but that it would be hard to tell if it will work with the AA SYE. My question is, is the custom one really needed? I have an 01 XJ with the 231 tcase which currently has a 1 inch drop on it. And an AW4 tranny with the D35 rear. I'm pretty sure the front shaft will work from everything I've read, but just wanna double check. Thanks

OOdynamite

Also, if I can get away with a stock front shaft, what needs done to it? Just new u joints?

Hoooper

find a shop that isnt going to lie to you and go there, leave this place alone

to answer the questions:

1) the IRO HNT wont vibrate at all unless the shop screws up the install, maybe theyre concerned they are not competent enough to do what thousands of backyard/garage floor mechanics have easily done?
2) you can use a stock DS from an automatic XJ
3) after you pull it, you can just use it if you like OR replace the joints and grease it.

OOdynamite

Lol ok, I like your answer. I kinda figured that they were just trying to sell me something when they told me that

Hoooper

i can be honest about the IRO HNT because I have one with a stock front DS (with replaced joints) which I installed by myself on the garage floor and it doesnt vibe. lol

OOdynamite

Lol great!! What tranny, rear axel, tcase, and lift height are you running? If ya don't mind me asking

freegdr

x2 no vibe im running 11.5 lift had to have the shaft lengthend but no issues,im running a 5 speed 231 tc and dana 35 rear with 410s

OOdynamite

Oh sweet, I feel like I won't need the drive shaft lengthened at all.

cdawall

shop sounds like they were trying to run you for more money. stick with the IRO its the same one i will be getting shortly. i will also be doing mine from the garage floor.

MallCrawlXJ

i run the iro hnt and have no issues or vibration....with a stock front d-shaft.

if you do end up needing your d-shaft lengthened, go to the jy and pick one up out of a v8 grand cherokee(zj). they are two inches longer than a stock auto front d-shaft. if you need it shortened, grab one from an ax-15 eqquiped xj. they are two inches shorter than a stock auto xj front shaft......this will save you some bucks! they are $25 a d-shaft around my junkyards.

and yes, i would replace all u-joints and check the cv cup and ball for wear before installing.

i needed the shorter ax-15 d-shaft for some reason...

OOdynamite

That's what I was thinking. I would do this myself, but seeing as how iv never used an angle grinder before, I'm not about to learn on something as important as my tcase output shaft lol

OOdynamite

How do I check the cup and ball for wear...?

MallCrawlXJ

When you take the cv apart to change out those u-joints, you can visually inspect them. There is also a set of needle bearings in there. If the "ball" is worn, that part will need replaced....shop has to weld a new one on. If the "cup" is worn, you can buy a new one from napa. Its best to just check by feel to see if its bad before purchasing from the jy.



You can check by feel before you take it apart. But you really need to know what a good one feels like to check this way.

OOdynamite

Ok cool! I would guess that if I feel it and I can feel grinding then that would be bad right?

MallCrawlXJ

not really grinding, its more just feeling for play in it. i guess if it got bad enough, it would grind......so yeah, if it grinds, dont buy it!!