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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:11 AM
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So as some of you know, the motor in my '99 is done for. Found a shop that will replace the motor, along with mounts, for $1800 minimum, with labor included.

To me, that's too much money.

So I'm looking for alternatives to that, which do include a motor swap. I've found a 4.0 here in Utah, but the ad says the Jeep was in a house fire. Link below.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...18&search=jeep

So now I'm toying around with other ideas. Such as diesel swaps, older GM V8's, and stuff like that. But diesel would be way too much work, and a GM V8 seems like it'd be hassle. So I'm thinking about the V8 out of a Tundra. Like below.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...&search=engine

Any ideas anybody? This is just a wild thought, but I want to see what's possible. Why just replace, when I could possibly upgrade.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:39 AM
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An engine swap to something bigger/more powerful is going to be more work and money than you think, it always is. Of course it would be cool, but a ton more work than a stock replacement. If you haven't thought of it the swap would include:

Engine
trans (an xj trans won't be able to handle a powerful v8)
adapter to t-case or bigger t-case
beef up the axles or bigger axles
strengthen the unibody from the firewall up, at least
custom trans crossmember
custom driveshafts
custom radiator
headers
custom exhaust
upgraded fuel system
custom wiring/computer setup
custom motor mounts

And i'm sure i'm forgetting numerous nitpicking parts. It will be harder but in the end is it worth it to you? You could get a another motor and stroke/supercharge/turbocharge it to gain some decent power.

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Old May 26, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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lol, so you think a GM V8 would be a hassle, so you want to put in a toyota V8??? you do realize that you will have to put in a whole new wiring harness for said engine right? the chevy V8 stuff is plentiful and cheap, and has been done many times while I'm pretty sure no one has swapped in a toyota v8 to an XJ. look into the chevy 5.3. http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1007477
also realize that you will need a new transmission and t case as your current units will not bolt up. yup, more work to get them to work. doesn't sound like you'll be able to do it with your budget, and the chevy route is the cheap route. also, why are you thinking about paying someone to put in an engine for you, and now thinking about doing a V8 swap yourself? why not get your engine rebuilt and then put it in yourself? that would fit your budget....
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Old May 26, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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If you think 1800 for a oem replacement installed is to expensive, the you really shouldn't be exercising the idea of a custom engine swap. Even what looks to be the simplest swap out there is going to give you some troubles and end up costing a lot more than what you would expect.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CheapCherokee
That guy ia stinkin' BRILLIANT!!
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Old May 26, 2012 | 12:39 PM
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The 2uz isn't worth it. The 1ur or better yet, the 3ur would actually be better, just waaaaay more than 1800 bucks...
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Old May 26, 2012 | 12:54 PM
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Find a JY motor and do the work yourself.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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You could just buy a running cherokee on craigslist, keep the engine for yourself and part out the rest and get your money back, it wouldnt be new but it would be cheap and yours.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 05:10 AM
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craigslist is the way i went payed 500 for the motor and did it myself at home total cost about $1000
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Old May 27, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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$1800 isn't that much. I paid that much for an ATK remanufactured longblock and had to do the swap myself! Also, even though I was doing the work myself, I spent another couple hundred on things like gaskets, sealants, motor mounts, hoses, cooling system flush and refill, etc.

If you don't mind used, go Craigslist. Or, follow the brilliant suggestion above and buy a whole Cherokee, use the motor, and part out the rest to get some money back. And who knows, there may be a host of parts you can use on your rig form the donor.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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If your dead set on a new motor you can always get a crate long block and swap everything over. If you got help should only take a weekend.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtRoadXJ
If your dead set on a new motor you can always get a crate long block and swap everything over. If you got help should only take a weekend.
I'm only dead set on a new motor because the one I have is done for. If the one in it right now was worth saving, I'd keep it running without a doubt.

Originally Posted by armmata
craigslist is the way i went payed 500 for the motor and did it myself at home total cost about $1000
I've only found one motor in Utah, and it's the one I linked in my first post.

Originally Posted by 88 Ex Jay
You could just buy a running cherokee on craigslist, keep the engine for yourself and part out the rest and get your money back, it wouldnt be new but it would be cheap and yours.
I can't find a 97+ that's running decent, for under $2000.

If anyone is from Utah, and knows any sources, please let me know.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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any 91+ block and head will swap into your jeep. Just find one with reasonable miles. Put your intake on it.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Actually, I think you only need to put your throttle body and fuel rail on it... Correct guys?
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Old May 29, 2012 | 12:44 AM
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any 4.0 up to 1999 i believe will bolt up. you may have to change the water pump and other pulleys to the original ones that came with the jeep but chrysler did change to the block tell late 90's read up on it at allpar.com
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