Caster camber and toe settings?
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Caster camber and toe settings?
I have a 99 xj with Rustys steering upgrade, RC 6.5 lift with adjustable lower control arms and drop brackets and RC track bar with 33x12.5 tires.
Everything was running perfect up until my last Moab trip. I either tweaked my frame or lnocked it out of alignment while wheeling Or both. Now it has a lot of pull to the left. I don't want to be spending 80 bucks to take it to the 4 x 4 shop to get Realigned again. That was fine once, when I first did the steering upgrade, but if alignments are going to be a common thing, that's going to drive me broke(er).
Does anyone know the recommended caster, camber and toe I should be set to for a set up like mine? Is it the same as factory settings?
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Everything was running perfect up until my last Moab trip. I either tweaked my frame or lnocked it out of alignment while wheeling Or both. Now it has a lot of pull to the left. I don't want to be spending 80 bucks to take it to the 4 x 4 shop to get Realigned again. That was fine once, when I first did the steering upgrade, but if alignments are going to be a common thing, that's going to drive me broke(er).
Does anyone know the recommended caster, camber and toe I should be set to for a set up like mine? Is it the same as factory settings?
Thanks
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Mine seems to work best at 1/8" toe out.
As far as castor/camber check all your ca mounts to make sure none are bent. Axle, track bar, steering, etc... Also check bearings and ball joints.
If its all good then you should not have to worry about castor/camber.
As far as castor/camber check all your ca mounts to make sure none are bent. Axle, track bar, steering, etc... Also check bearings and ball joints.
If its all good then you should not have to worry about castor/camber.
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Toe is what you more than likely messed up, just bust out the tape measure and measure from out side of the tread on the front of the front tire, and compare to the out side of the tread on the back of the front tire, Solid axles dont have any camber adjustment short of bending the axle, and caster usually wont cause to much of a pull unless it is over .5 degrees off.
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My old man tells me about toeing it in .125 to .375 based on the crownof the road in a particular region. I have also read about people getting ridof possible components of “death wobble” by toeing out when implementing alarger tire application…..I did mine in the drive way with a tape measure…...iset mine toe in by .125 ….I think mineneeds some LCA bushings and/or some toe out
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My old man tells me about toeing it in .125 to .375 based on the crownof the road in a particular region. I have also read about people getting ridof possible components of “death wobble” by toeing out when implementing alarger tire application…..I did mine in the drive way with a tape measure…...iset mine toe in by .125 ….I think mineneeds some LCA bushings and/or some toe out
On xj's particularly toe out helps death wobble. I work at a 4wd shop and our main alignment guy suggested it. I did it and it made a noticeable difference on my xj. When I align lifted pick ups depending on the application decides whether toe in or out. Also how the castor/camber relationship is.
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no kidding it helps with death wobble
I redid my steering and slapped it back together in too much of a rush to get home. holy **** I was toe out by just a tad bit and I thought I was gonna lose control and I'm sure everyone near me thought I was driving drunk
toe'd it in 1/4" or so and it was fine. by far the scariest drive home I've ever had in the jeep. and I've driven home with blown TRE's, loose track bar, bent LCA, bracket, etc.
I redid my steering and slapped it back together in too much of a rush to get home. holy **** I was toe out by just a tad bit and I thought I was gonna lose control and I'm sure everyone near me thought I was driving drunk
toe'd it in 1/4" or so and it was fine. by far the scariest drive home I've ever had in the jeep. and I've driven home with blown TRE's, loose track bar, bent LCA, bracket, etc.
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On xj's particularly toe out helps death wobble. I work at a 4wd shop and our main alignment guy suggested it. I did it and it made a noticeable difference on my xj. When I align lifted pick ups depending on the application decides whether toe in or out. Also how the castor/camber relationship is.
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Well mine was the complete opposite. It was slightly toed in and I had death wobble and was wearing my tires.
Now why do you suppose this is so?????????
Because there is a lot more to death wobble and tire wear than toe in or tow out.
Atmos needs a toe somewhere though. that is for certain LOL
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If you would quit purposely trying to argue. WE may not have too many differences.
A slight toe in or toe out is not dangerous in any community. Only a naive community would believe such.
It depends on your current castor camber/tire set up along with what your front end is doing, or what you want it to do. Many auto's from factory are set toe out. Again, you may want to inform them they are doing it dangerously.
Don't believe me. Do some in depth re search. I am certain you will be able to learn something.