Another Axle Question (D44 vs. C8.25)
10-25-2018, 01:35 PM
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I think I may try to pull a 29 spline C8.25 this weekend. The disc brake swap idea is very interesting. Will the disc swap fit with 15 inch rims? I'd love to have disc brakes.
Until I am ready to regear, I'm going to keep tires the same size, I'm worried 33s will be a dog on the highway going over passes. I only have 4k miles on my BFGs.
The 8.8 is just more than I need for 31s or even 33s. It's also a little more costly and time consuming since I cannot weld. Plus, I'm worried that the size of the diff may actually be a clearance issue with my 31s.
Until I am ready to regear, I'm going to keep tires the same size, I'm worried 33s will be a dog on the highway going over passes. I only have 4k miles on my BFGs.
The 8.8 is just more than I need for 31s or even 33s. It's also a little more costly and time consuming since I cannot weld. Plus, I'm worried that the size of the diff may actually be a clearance issue with my 31s.
Yeah, it should be more than you need, but that doesn't mean you don't get people like me building one that will be trussed and have a Super 8.8 kit installed on, and not even running 33's
A broken axle shaft is a bit work when it's on a C-Clip axle. Not that you can't get c-clip eliminating kits.
10-25-2018, 01:37 PM
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It takes longer to get the old perches off and to clean the tube up, than it does to get the axle in, new pads burned in, and the axle installed (unless you've got a plasma and some good flap discs).
10-25-2018, 01:47 PM
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Yep, but it would require someone with some skills, or be willing to pay someone else for it.
It takes longer to get the old perches off and to clean the tube up, than it does to get the axle in, new pads burned in, and the axle installed (unless you've got a plasma and some good flap discs).
It takes longer to get the old perches off and to clean the tube up, than it does to get the axle in, new pads burned in, and the axle installed (unless you've got a plasma and some good flap discs).
10-25-2018, 01:52 PM
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You should be fine with 15's and the disc brake swap as far as I'm aware. I *thought* some KJ's came stock with 15's, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, it should be more than you need, but that doesn't mean you don't get people like me building one that will be trussed and have a Super 8.8 kit installed on, and not even running 33's
Yeah, I did mean to write that in and skipped over it. The 8.8 does take a little more work.
Axle shafts by the dozens, Several sets of ring gears, and one fukked tube.
A broken axle shaft is a bit work when it's on a C-Clip axle. Not that you can't get c-clip eliminating kits.
Yeah, it should be more than you need, but that doesn't mean you don't get people like me building one that will be trussed and have a Super 8.8 kit installed on, and not even running 33's
Yeah, I did mean to write that in and skipped over it. The 8.8 does take a little more work.
Axle shafts by the dozens, Several sets of ring gears, and one fukked tube.
A broken axle shaft is a bit work when it's on a C-Clip axle. Not that you can't get c-clip eliminating kits.
10-25-2018, 03:41 PM
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Thats impressive . . maybe cheap Chinese shafts off ebay? lol personally ive seen quite a few locked and welded d35s take a lot of abuse and hold up quite well with only one twisted shaft after being run on 35s
10-25-2018, 03:45 PM
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If you live where there isn't as much traction, they'll live longer. But if you do more crawling (rocks) than 4x4'ing (e.g. woods, mud, etc.) they don't last long (especially in Colorado).
It's come to the point, to where I know people who literally will not run with someone who has a D35, since they just refuse to have to deal with a possible headache.
A D35 is an easy way to turn a fun day of trail wheeling, into a long day of "I just want to get the fukk off this trail".
10-25-2018, 03:49 PM
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All OEM shafts. Trying to get a rig off the trail that doesn't have spares, is something I'll make sure to never experience again (wasn't my group).
If you live where there isn't as much traction, they'll live longer. But if you do more crawling (rocks) than 4x4'ing (e.g. woods, mud, etc.) they don't last long (especially in Colorado).
It's come to the point, to where I know people who literally will not run with someone who has a D35, since they just refuse to have to deal with a possible headache.
A D35 is an easy way to turn a fun day of trail wheeling, into a long day of "I just want to get the fukk off this trail".
If you live where there isn't as much traction, they'll live longer. But if you do more crawling (rocks) than 4x4'ing (e.g. woods, mud, etc.) they don't last long (especially in Colorado).
It's come to the point, to where I know people who literally will not run with someone who has a D35, since they just refuse to have to deal with a possible headache.
A D35 is an easy way to turn a fun day of trail wheeling, into a long day of "I just want to get the fukk off this trail".
10-25-2018, 05:57 PM
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All OEM shafts. Trying to get a rig off the trail that doesn't have spares, is something I'll make sure to never experience again (wasn't my group).
If you live where there isn't as much traction, they'll live longer. But if you do more crawling (rocks) than 4x4'ing (e.g. woods, mud, etc.) they don't last long (especially in Colorado).
It's come to the point, to where I know people who literally will not run with someone who has a D35, since they just refuse to have to deal with a possible headache.
A D35 is an easy way to turn a fun day of trail wheeling, into a long day of "I just want to get the fukk off this trail".
If you live where there isn't as much traction, they'll live longer. But if you do more crawling (rocks) than 4x4'ing (e.g. woods, mud, etc.) they don't last long (especially in Colorado).
It's come to the point, to where I know people who literally will not run with someone who has a D35, since they just refuse to have to deal with a possible headache.
A D35 is an easy way to turn a fun day of trail wheeling, into a long day of "I just want to get the fukk off this trail".
Last XJ with a D35 I wheeled with broke on the first obstacle before we really got going. He had been invited by someone else in the group. Those two got him back to the parking lot and headed home while the rest of us enjoyed the day.
10-26-2018, 10:44 AM
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^ This.
It's narrower, but by a very small margin. It's not like the difference between full width and not.
Worst case throw a couple 1/2" spacers on.
It's narrower, but by a very small margin. It's not like the difference between full width and not.
Worst case throw a couple 1/2" spacers on.
10-26-2018, 08:17 PM
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I have ZJ discs on my 8.25. Great upgrade. But I’m oretty sure you need 16” alloys to clear the discs. But I think a 15” steel wheel with the right offset will clear. I could be mistaken though.
And on the D35 front, I’ve got a buddy who literally beats the **** out of his open D35 and it’s never broken. And trust me, he’s tried. He’s even jumped it. Been trying to break it as an excuse to axle swap but the damn thing won’t break lol. He’s on 35’s. He is by far the exception to the rule though.
And on the D35 front, I’ve got a buddy who literally beats the **** out of his open D35 and it’s never broken. And trust me, he’s tried. He’s even jumped it. Been trying to break it as an excuse to axle swap but the damn thing won’t break lol. He’s on 35’s. He is by far the exception to the rule though.