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denbjornen Aug 29, 2012 11:33 PM

Hey guys,

I've got a rough country 3" lift in the front. But in the rear, I have around 5-5.5 inches. I want to level out the front of the truck using coil spacers. 2" to be specific. Is this a good idea? Are the shocks long/big enough to handle that much? Will my control arms be too short?

99superjeep01 Aug 30, 2012 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by denbjornen
Hey guys,

I've got a rough country 3" lift in the front. But in the rear, I have around 5-5.5 inches. I want to level out the front of the truck using coil spacers. 2" to be specific. Is this a good idea? Are the shocks long/big enough to handle that much? Will my control arms be too short?

I run 2" spacers and have never had any issues. If the control arms are stock then it'll be best to change them, if they came with the kit you can still use them. The ride won't be as nice though. Unless you frequently disconnect your sway bar and really flex, the shocks should be fine too.

puckhound95 Aug 30, 2012 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Tom95YJ
Just by the daystar extended bumpstops and flex it out if it rubs glue a hockey puck to the coil pad and try again. Just make sure you are not bottoming out your shocks before you hit the bumpstop

What about for the rear?

Lowrange2 Aug 30, 2012 06:29 AM

Same thing. Buy extended stops and go from there.

denbjornen Aug 30, 2012 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by 99superjeep01 (Post 1990048)
I run 2" spacers and have never had any issues. If the control arms are stock then it'll be best to change them, if they came with the kit you can still use them. The ride won't be as nice though. Unless you frequently disconnect your sway bar and really flex, the shocks should be fine too.

Will the ride improve if I get control arm drop brackets?

Lowrange2 Aug 30, 2012 07:37 AM

Yes.

99superjeep01 Aug 30, 2012 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by denbjornen

Will the ride improve if I get control arm drop brackets?

Having no personal experience with drop brackets I couldn't tell you for sure. I imagine it would help, but at the cost of losing clearance. But adding only 2" there's no real need to change your control arm setup.

Lowrange2 Aug 30, 2012 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by 99superjeep01 (Post 1990147)
Having no personal experience with drop brackets I couldn't tell you for sure. I imagine it would help, but at the cost of losing clearance. But adding only 2" there's no real need to change your control arm setup.

If you say so...

I ran drop brackets for about 2 years.

I can tell you two things:

1. At 5.5 inches of lift... drop brackets will SERIOUSLY improve your ride and handling.

2. Unless you're running the Rubicon every day and crawling 3 foot diameter boulders then I BET you'll never hang up on the drop brackets. They're so close to the wheel that it takes some fancy situations to hit them on anything. Average trail riding won't do it.


Make that three things...

There's a big difference in how things need to be done between 3.5" lift and 5.5" lift... There's more to it than "only 2 inches"

99superjeep01 Aug 30, 2012 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by lowrange2

If you say so...

I ran drop brackets for about 2 years.

I can tell you two things:

1. At 5.5 inches of lift... drop brackets will SERIOUSLY improve your ride and handling.

2. Unless you're running the Rubicon every day and crawling 3 foot diameter boulders then I BET you'll never hang up on the drop brackets. They're so close to the wheel that it takes some fancy situations to hit them on anything. Average trail riding won't do it.

Make that three things...

There's a big difference in how things need to be done between 3.5" lift and 5.5" lift... There's more to it than "only 2 inches"

That's exactly why I started off by saying I've had no personal experience with drop brackets. I run long arms.

99superjeep01 Aug 30, 2012 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by lowrange2

There's a big difference in how things need to be done between 3.5" lift and 5.5" lift... There's more to it than "only 2 inches"

And not necessarily. I started off with 2" spacers in my first XJ then got a pro comp 3" kit. That gave me pretty much the same set up he's looking to get. I ran the shocks and control arms that came with the 3" kit and it worked fine. Flexed well enough, but it rode like a brick lol. Sure you can argue fine points, but I was speaking from a suspension p.o.v. Adding 2" spacers will not mandate other changes. But id you want to take others things into account, then he'll be looking at longer brake lines, some sort of SYE, stuff like that.

Lowrange2 Aug 30, 2012 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by 99superjeep01 (Post 1990217)
That's exactly why I started off by saying I've had no personal experience with drop brackets. I run long arms.

I had drop brackets but needed more cool points so I now have long arms.


Originally Posted by 99superjeep01 (Post 1990232)
And not necessarily. I started off with 2" spacers in my first XJ then got a pro comp 3" kit. That gave me pretty much the same set up he's looking to get. I ran the shocks and control arms that came with the 3" kit and it worked fine. Flexed well enough, but it rode like a brick lol. Sure you can argue fine points, but I was speaking from a suspension p.o.v. Adding 2" spacers will not mandate other changes. But id you want to take others things into account, then he'll be looking at longer brake lines, some sort of SYE, stuff like that.

Right, that's my point. To do it correctly and not have it ride like a brick with square wheels... there are other things that need to be addressed.

99superjeep01 Aug 30, 2012 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by lowrange2

I had drop brackets but needed more cool points so I now have long arms.

Right, that's my point. To do it correctly and not have it ride like a brick with square wheels... there are other things that need to be addressed.

More cool points lol. Yeah we're on the same track.

fitrider250 Aug 30, 2012 10:25 AM

is it better to have wide tires or tires still in fender?

puckhound95 Aug 30, 2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by fitrider250
is it better to have wide tires or tires still in fender?

Depends. More narrow tires will give you better mpg, but will dig in soft ground more. Wider tires have the opposite effect.

Lowrange2 Aug 30, 2012 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by fitrider250 (Post 1990340)
is it better to have wide tires or tires still in fender?

That's simply a matter of opinion. On something I drive every day... I prefer narrow tires.

On my trail junk I prefer wider tires.


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