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I bought an xj last year, and I decided to put a 5" lift on it from rocky road outfitters. Once I received the stuff I immediately started checking it all. After comparing my new track bar with the old one I noticed something wasn't right. The bar I have on my xj has a heim joint, where as the new one has a ball joint. When I called/emailed pictures they told me I had an aftermarket bracket. I took it to my local off road shop to get an opinion and the guy there told me it looked like it was the bracket and track bar for a tj. If someone could help me out that would be great. I have pictures if they are needed.
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Might help if you zoom out on the bracket a little bit, but that doesn't look like anything especially different from an XJ bracket. The trac bar is definitely aftermarket though.
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Looks like an aftermarket track bar on there, and looks like the replacement you have is a factory one or at least factory style. If I was putting a 5" lift on my jeep I'd be expecting a good bit of articulation and the tie rod end style will bind up first, then the sideways heim, and the best would be an aftermarket doubleshear mount. You can't use the tie rod end style anymore without buying a new factory style mount since the hole has to be drilled out to put in the heim style end. So you have a few options, leave what's there, buy a new factory flimsy mount and use the new one you got, or buy a new double shear mount and use either the one on there now with spacers or a stronger one.
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im finally getting around to working in my 01 XJ I bought a few years ago. I just picked up the RC 4.5” X-series kit and found a great deal on general AT2 33x12.50 on Craigslist. fenders were trimmed by the previous owner. My question(s) is will I need to replace/change the bump stops (front and rear) and will I need to add wheel spacers for these to fit. I see a lot of comments about backspacing, is that relevant as well. Sorry if these are dumb questions I’m a newbie to wrenching/jeeping
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im finally getting around to working in my 01 XJ I bought a few years ago. I just picked up the RC 4.5” X-series kit and found a great deal on general AT2 33x12.50 on Craigslist. fenders were trimmed by the previous owner. My question(s) is will I need to replace/change the bump stops (front and rear) and will I need to add wheel spacers for these to fit. I see a lot of comments about backspacing, is that relevant as well. Sorry if these are dumb questions I’m a newbie to wrenching/jeeping
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Bumpstopping and backspacing all depends on your wheels, tires, Shock travel, and how much is trimmed already. The only way to know for certain is to flex it out and find out if it rubs. Obviously do this in a slow controlled manner so you can stop just before it rubs and not damage your new tires or your fenders. Then get out and measure the gap left between the bumpstop and the bumpstop plate. Then extend them a little more than that gap since they will compress.
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im finally getting around to working in my 01 XJ I bought a few years ago. I just picked up the RC 4.5” X-series kit and found a great deal on general AT2 33x12.50 on Craigslist. fenders were trimmed by the previous owner. My question(s) is will I need to replace/change the bump stops (front and rear) and will I need to add wheel spacers for these to fit. I see a lot of comments about backspacing, is that relevant as well. Sorry if these are dumb questions I’m a newbie to wrenching/jeeping
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what size lift was the jeep before? And you will need new rims that are 3.75 of backspace. You could install spacers with stock rima, but you nees to use high quality ones. They are not a part to skimp out on. You dont want a wheel flying off on the road....but by the time you spend on the spacers, tou could just get new rims for the same or just a bit more.
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
what size lift was the jeep before? And you will need new rims that are 3.75 of backspace. You could install spacers with stock rima, but you nees to use high quality ones. They are not a part to skimp out on. You dont want a wheel flying off on the road....but by the time you spend on the spacers, tou could just get new rims for the same or just a bit more.
Yep he is right I got my black wheels with 3.75 back spacing for under $200 they are cheap it was roughly $35 a wheel and with shipping, tax, etc. it came out to I believe around $165

I went without the lugs though at first and they will run you maybe another $20 but I ordered them up later not feeling comfortable with how my originaly lugs sit against wheel. I think mine came in around $25 for all 4 wheels. I also originaly ordered a spare wheel but it never showed up. I got reimbursed for the cost so my thought is they ran out or suspected that I ordered one too many. Never really looked into it and figured I would just order a new one later. That being said I should probably do that now

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Originally Posted by Martlor13
what size lift was the jeep before? And you will need new rims that are 3.75 of backspace. You could install spacers with stock rima, but you nees to use high quality ones. They are not a part to skimp out on. You dont want a wheel flying off on the road....but by the time you spend on the spacers, tou could just get new rims for the same or just a bit more.
Hard to tell at this point what the existing lift is since the fenders are cut, I think it’s 2” maybe 3”, sitting on 31x10.50 on steel 15x8’s.
im hoping to use the same wheels with 33x12.50’s that I picked up.
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Hard to tell at this point what the existing lift is since the fenders are cut, I think it’s 2” maybe 3”, sitting on 31x10.50 on steel 15x8’s.
im hoping to use the same wheels with 33x12.50’s that I picked up.
Without knowing what wheels and current bumpstop, all we can really say is put the stuff on and measure after it's done to see if everything clear fine. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the wheels are probably fine since most aftermarket steel wheels have increased backspacing, but I can't tell you anything about bumpstop. That's a a case by case situation
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
Without knowing what wheels and current bumpstop, all we can really say is put the stuff on and measure after it's done to see if everything clear fine. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the wheels are probably fine since most aftermarket steel wheels have increased backspacing, but I can't tell you anything about bumpstop. That's a a case by case situation
thanks for the reply, there is a ton ofgood knowledge and support on here from all you guys. Trying to build this XJ with my 12 year old daughter and not have to take it in to a shop. Thanks again
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
Without knowing what wheels and current bumpstop, all we can really say is put the stuff on and measure after it's done to see if everything clear fine. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the wheels are probably fine since most aftermarket steel wheels have increased backspacing, but I can't tell you anything about bumpstop. That's a a case by case situation
yupp if they are aftermarket wheels they probably would be ok...but any oem wheels wont work.
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Ok guys, I'm right at the end of my floor pan replacement and I'm about to take the plunge. I've got about 1500 to sink into my jeep and I'm starting at the back. I've done all the measurements and it's sitting at about 5.5 inch lift. I really like this height, so what I've come up with so far is this:

4.5 RE extreme leafs
Tom Woods drive shaft + advanced adapters SYE
I'm having a real problem deciding on the shocks for the rear.
Should I just go Bilstein 5100's or should I just spend the couple of hundred for the Fox resevoir? Or is there a better option?

I already know what comes next.... "what are you using your Jeep for?". I want a daily driver that is really capable. I spend as much time as I can down by the river and it's not always pleasant. Not rock crawler, but good on the nasty stuff.
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
Looks like an aftermarket track bar on there, and looks like the replacement you have is a factory one or at least factory style. If I was putting a 5" lift on my jeep I'd be expecting a good bit of articulation and the tie rod end style will bind up first, then the sideways heim, and the best would be an aftermarket doubleshear mount. You can't use the tie rod end style anymore without buying a new factory style mount since the hole has to be drilled out to put in the heim style end. So you have a few options, leave what's there, buy a new factory flimsy mount and use the new one you got, or buy a new double shear mount and use either the one on there now with spacers or a stronger one.
Honestly, I would just run the trac bar that's on it, if it were me. As the Hen stated, it will work better with the amount of lift that's on it. At least run it until you can afford a double sheer mount anyway.
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Ok guys, I'm right at the end of my floor pan replacement and I'm about to take the plunge. I've got about 1500 to sink into my jeep and I'm starting at the back. I've done all the measurements and it's sitting at about 5.5 inch lift. I really like this height, so what I've come up with so far is this:

4.5 RE extreme leafs
Tom Woods drive shaft + advanced adapters SYE
I'm having a real problem deciding on the shocks for the rear.
Should I just go Bilstein 5100's or should I just spend the couple of hundred for the Fox resevoir? Or is there a better option?

I already know what comes next.... "what are you using your Jeep for?". I want a daily driver that is really capable. I spend as much time as I can down by the river and it's not always pleasant. Not rock crawler, but good on the nasty stuff.
I've personally ridden in a full size truck with bilstein and fox. My honest opinion is that the bilsteins ride better on the road and the fox ride better off road. A friend of mine has a full raptor suspension under his f150 and it rides great off-road and fairly decent on road.


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