I don't know what you know. You're saying the Skyjacker springs suck, but I've seen a hundred reviews for them and every single one of them said the ride is on the soft side. Can you tell me what the spring rate is for these???

OK, so tell me what spring rate I have now, and what spring rate I should have instead. Or tell me what shocks are better than these OMEs.

I don't know why you would say this. Who are you talking to? No one is discussing how long arms work. No one has said anything about long arms other than the price.

What's wrong with them?

See, I don't think the way a stock XJ rides qualifies as "rough."

Maybe yours doesn't ride like mine. And if so, I would like to know why. I can't see how any living person would not be bothered by the way mine rides. Every vehicle i've ever owned has had a crappy-riding suspension, and this is horrible. Maybe I need to get a video of it from inside... Every bump there is a loud BANG! like a gunshot going off right outside the cab and the whole thing feels like the frame dropped straight down onto a rock.

 

No. I quoted a link provided for me just a few minutes ago.

And I didn't tell anyone to pair long arms with a 3" lift.

What is a good spring rate for 3" lift springs, and who makes them? The springs I bought have a reputation for a soft ride. If it's the springs causing the problems, then I can't trust reputation (and probably not any vendors), and I need objective facts. That's why I started the thread. I don't want to throw any more money at the problem.

 

Sorry, my bad.

Yea, I dont know. I mean being in the biz I see tons of lifts. To me they mostly all ride like a log wagon. But some customers say they cant tell a difference, some hate the ride, some love it. LOL I dont know!!

I bought rc front springs(3in) and my jeep now rides like a truck compared to the BB I had on it at first. Which was no difference than stock.

But just look at the springs. That will tell you right off the bat the spring rate is a lot stiffer than the stock ones.

In my opinion the aftermarket companies do not have the quality of metal the factorys do. Therefore they use a heavy rate to compensate. That is the only logical conclusion I can come up with.

I mean why else? IF an aftermarket company had the same material as stock, they would just make them longer and garrantee that their springs would ride like stock. They would corner the market!!!

But that is not the case is it??

 

Based on my experiences, associating bad ride quality to coils means something's else isn't right. Either your geometry is off, or those generic, made for any ride shocks aren't doing there job. Try some shocks made for your jeep.

 

probably can be attributed to a number of things. my rear was set up nice. rubicon express springs, shackle relocation, bilstein shocks. and larger tires at a lower PSI that absorbed some of the impact. but speed bumps in a parking lot were a nightmare

 

holycaveman-No truer words spoken. I have Bilsteins, CAD brackets, RE rear springs, shackle boxes, 45* shackle angles, yup-still dump truck. I'm tired of throwing money at it to ride better. I don't know what to compare it to, since this is my first lifted 4x4. Maybe it ride nice for others, and I shouldn't complain, but a great disappointment to me.

 

yep. something like that. normally I would've disputed this but with holycaveman it's generally a lost cause. all the go-fast cars run very stiff springs and some how magically have very comfortable riding suspensions

*cough* *cough* long arms good shocks

 

please refer back to the diagram I posted on page 2. long arms will give you what you're looking for

 

+1 for the long arms

 

I think someone just has a sensitive *** lol

 

Running bilstiens. Great geometry, etc.... We install many lifts a week. All like log wagons

Its the springs.

Nothing rides as well as stock from what we have seen.

 

Go ahead and say it, we are wussies!! LOL


There is a reason though I don't drive a one ton truck to work every day. My jeep rides like a one ton truck. So yea, its disapointing.

 

wrong. purely wrong

 

I'm trying to find the spring rates. Maybe I need to call Skyjacker tomorrow.
Part numbers JC30F and JC25S. They both have "Softride" in their name, which seemed to fit according to the reviews I read.

OME Nitrocharger Sports, Part numbers 60053L and 60052L.
Are these not made for the XJ? I had two vendors tell me they were, and I've read others recommend them.

 

All seriousness. I can get a long arm kit for cheap. Well at cost anyways.

It will be a cold day in hell before I waste my money on one. No offense at all to anyone who has them.

But my jeep with its small lift won't be getting one. I flex as well as any long armed jeep in our group wheeling. They don't go places I can't go period.

I just can not justify it. I like them don't get me wrong. But my short arms work great at 3in of lift. Maxing out 10" of shock travel, 12" if I wanted to do more work to it. At what point do I justify it?

If I were to 4 link the rear and make it a hard core trail rig only that was never driven on the road, I could see it.

BUt as it is long arms do not fit my application.

Everyone is different.