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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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Definitely go straight to the 33's. I went 3" and 31's a little while back and I am kicking myself. Just sold my 31's with about 500 miles on them at a big loss and ordered the 33's like I should have done in the first place.
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Boost Happy

Im not really sure you know what rear flex is lol. That thing is about as stiff as an ironing board. Heres a picture of my 230,000 mile leaf pack

Here it sits today, no sagging, low arch(a lot of arch is arch is actually not a great thing), soft riding leaf pack.

This is pretty much what rear flex look like.

So why put a bandaid on worn out springs? Because it works better then you $300 springs at an 1/8th the price.

And off topic, how are those KM2's treating you on rocks?
I know what rear flex is I can assure you once i replace these springs with alcans or deavers it'll get better. As for how the km2s are holding up on rocks they are doing great The edges of some tread blocks are chunked a little from spinning on sharp granite trying to get up some stuff. But other then that they are great.
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom95YJ

I know what rear flex is I can assure you once i replace these springs with alcans or deavers it'll get better. As for how the km2s are holding up on rocks they are doing great The edges of some tread blocks are chunked a little from spinning on sharp granite trying to get up some stuff. But other then that they are great.
I think the point is that you said your re 3.5 pack and stock shackles flex great..but the pictures contradict that statement

I've ran that exact setup..it sucked as far as articulation goes
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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No lift relocators are nifty. My shackle angle is less than 45* and allows for all the droop my shocks will let it have.


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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co...ear-3.5-4-Lift

http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co...UTY-LEAF-PACKS

http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co...J-ZJ-TJ-3-LIFT
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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My next setup is going to be either a combo of leaf shackle and relocaters, or just a leaf pack and liquid iron sliders.
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jakecarder

Anything else out back with the leafs. Did you actually find old man emu leafs listed at 3in or did you get ones listed at 2in and get what they call "medium duty" or "heavy duty".

I would get the leafs listed as "med" or "heavy duty" because one of those actually gives a stock cherokee 3 in(I forget, have to look that up), but because I'm going to be running shackle relocation brackets to get a better shackle angle I'm going to go with the "light duty" leafs.

To the O.P., if you don't know what the shackle relocation brackets are you should really consider them. They replace the flimsy sheet metal shackle boxes, some brands can add lift, some have lo profile, and most importantly are adjustable to get the shackle angle to the desired 45°. If the shackle angles is straight up and down or close to it when you hit a bump in the road all that force is applied straight up into the body instead of being absorbed into the leaf spring.
Besides the ome 3 inch leafs I have 1inch shackles from my previous set up that I left on there.. they are actaull 3 inch leafs.I'm pretty sure they are medium duty. I didn't have the skills to make a jy lift so I pieced it together from the best prices I could find online

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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 01:05 PM
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Thanks for all replies guys, lots of info and looks like a lot of options.

I.know Forsure I don't want to use JY leafs. Don't know much about the relocators.

Will a LP and a 3" be fine? I have a HP I'm waiting to gear but won't be for a while. Just don't want to run into driveline binding.
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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a low pinion will be just fine, the stock front driveshaft is a double cardon and cn bend more without vibing. dont quote me on this but for a a high pinion 30 to work in our jeeps(00',01')(mines a 2000) we need to have a custom exhaust built. header back. reason is because in 2000 they put pre cats on the headers to conform to new emission laws. what happends is the driveshaft will be pushed up into the pipe and smash it. ive read that they get smashed even at 4in lift with proper bumpstopping. it gets smashed just driving down the road and hitting pot holes. there has been guys that do install high pinion 30s but the ended up spending 8-900 dollars on a custom exhaust. another reason why 00' and 01' are far less desirable the 99's. but like i said look it up, this is just wht my understanding is. someone else can provide more info and i could be totally wrong lol

at right around 100 dollars you cant go wrong with the relocators. like i have said and others have, less arched lefs, longer shackle but not to long, and the correct shackle angle wil flex more, allow the axle to droop more resulting in longer shocks, and have the ultimate on road quality. id would only buy FST or HDoffroad enginering shackle relocators.
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 02:12 PM
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You even have me wanting to look into relocators ha
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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Relocators... Best thing to do for the rear leafs.
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jon with the jeep
You even have me wanting to look into relocators ha
haha i know. i dont even have them. when i started hearing about relocators and slider boxes i spent a solid month researching the two, comparing them and what the advantages you they give. i drive 140+ miles round trip to work every day so ride quality is a must. they will take a stock hard hitting rear and turn it into a caddy with air ride. alot of people say its the best upgrade theve done to the jeep. comig in 1st is h4 style headlights. while slider boxes are completly awsome, the word on many forums is they need alot of maitnence. replacement parts, silcone/teflon spray everyweek, and get wore down if you wheel around mud. there great in the west where its rocks and dry but i live on the east coast in maryland so theres alot of mud and mostly trail riding
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 04:52 PM
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If you buy relocators, PLEASE buy from HD Offroad Engineer or Iron Man fab
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 94XjSport94
If you buy relocators, PLEASE buy from HD Offroad Engineer or Iron Man fab
With an awesome mullet like that this guy can't be wrong!! Lol but seriously I'm all for supporting the vendors on here.
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jakecarder
haha i know. i dont even have them. when i started hearing about relocators and slider boxes i spent a solid month researching the two, comparing them and what the advantages you they give. i drive 140+ miles round trip to work every day so ride quality is a must. they will take a stock hard hitting rear and turn it into a caddy with air ride. alot of people say its the best upgrade theve done to the jeep. comig in 1st is h4 style headlights. while slider boxes are completly awsome, the word on many forums is they need alot of maitnence. replacement parts, silcone/teflon spray everyweek, and get wore down if you wheel around mud. there great in the west where its rocks and dry but i live on the east coast in maryland so theres alot of mud and mostly trail riding
I live on long island and don't really get to do any wheeling.. but I still love to put parts on my rig. One of these days I might tear through a farm field tho :P
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