Yes, i ordered these through Rock Auto and they came with the brackets. They did NOT come with the banjo bolts/cruch washers however. The only place i could find them was the dealer and i had to wait a day or so in order for them to get them. They fit right through my XJ SS brake lines just fine.

 

Quick question has anyone installed the 16 TJ Rubicon Moab wheel with a spacer with this conversion.

 

I would be really surprised if you could get a 16" wheel over this setup. There's maybe 3/8" between the 17" JK rim and caliper which wouldn't leave you enough room for a rim that's 1" smaller in diameter.

 

Yea that is close. Thanks

 

The 13.25" rotor BBK might fit and work on 16" steel rims.

For 16" alumn wheels and maybe 15" steel, I am working on a 12.01" rotor and same calipers with a different bracket to bring the caliper closer to the disc.
Basically the 'WJ' brake upgrade without the welding, new track bar, new steering, etc.

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Fitted together a 12.01" rotor to a Late '99.5+ wheel bearing.
Had to use the angle grinder with a flapper disc to slightly decrease the outside diameter of the wheel hub so it fits into the hat of the rotor. Easily done, just rotate the wheel hub while grinding at 90*. Took about 5 minutes.
Then bolted on a 2 piston caliper to the 'early XJ/TJ knuckles' with 14mm bolts and needed 2 washers to space out to center the caliper on the rotor. Early wheel bearings would probably need 4 washers.

So the outside diameter of the 12" rotor and caliper is 14". Definitely a 16" steel rim will fit and it looks like a 15" steel rim like a Crager Soft 8 wheel will fit. It will be close and IDK but it might need a 1.5" spacer. Still gotta check that out closer.
The 15" steel wheel is 14.5" inside diameter and the 14" rotor diameter will fit.

This make sense as the 13.25" rotor and caliper is about 15.25" diameter of the caliper. Aluminum wheels lose about 1" from their size to get inside diameter. Steel wheels lose about 1/2".
What this means is that the 17" TJ Rubicon Moab wheel is 16" inside diameter, 3/8" gap between caliper and wheel x2 = 3/4". 16" - 3/4" = 15.25" So it fits.
A 16" aluminum wheel will be 15" inside diameter and the 15.25" will not fit.
A 16" steel wheel will be 15.5" and the 15.25" will barely fit.

So what does all this mean? You can do an equivalent to the WJ Brake Upgrade, 12" rotors and 2 piston calipers, without all the work of having to do the knuckle spacer welding, different lower ball joint, different steering linkage, move the track bar bracket and move the sway bar axle brackets. All said and done simple bolt on 12" Brake Upgrade for under $500 for 2- rotors, calipers, pads and early XJ knuckles.

 

Outstanding! Got a part number for that rotor and caliper? Or is it in a previous post?

 

Started a new thread, just for you. I knew someone would ask. Thanks for following.

HERE-15" DIY Big Brake Kit for XJ/MJ/TJ/YJ/D30/D44 -
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/15...30-d44-227121/

 

-Mustang GT500 '11-'14 Rotors 13.25" Centric 120.61098
For What it's worth. That Centric PN is for a Mustang GT Rotor.
Ford PN: DR3Z 1125 B , crosses to the same PN @ CQ/Advance YH317200 that the Centric # does.

Shelby Rotor FD PN: is DR3Z 1125 A

 

Thanks for clarifying that. I have so many rotors it is hard to keep them straight.
I have Mustang 13", 14" and 15" rotors, SportTrac 12", WJ 12" and XJ 11" rotors.
What Ford puts on their upscale model one year becomes standard on their base model a few years later.
I believe the GT500 Centric rotors are the 120.61089 and are 14".
And the '13 Shelby GT500 are Centric 125.61106 and are 15".

Centric
Centric 120.65082 Ford SportTrac '01 premium 12" front rotor $42.79 RockAuto
Centric 120.61098 Ford Mustang GT '14 premium 13" front rotor $58.79 RockAuto
Centric 120.61089 Ford Mustang GT500 '14, premium 355mm 14" front rotor 26.2lbs, 1.26"thick $65.89 RockAuto
Centric 120.65054 Ford '95-'01 Explorer 4WD Front rotors 11.375"
Centric 125.61106 '13 Shelby GT500 front 380mm 15" high carbon alloy $119
Centric 125.61105 '13 Shelby GT500 rear 350mm 14" high carbon alloy $68
Centric 120.67053 '02-'10 Ram 1500 336mm 13.25" 5x5.5" ?Vanco 17" kit

Got another option for 14" rotor-
Wagner BD180395 '08-'16 Challenger 360mm 14" front, 1.26"thick, 4.528"bolt circle, hat 2.287" (requires 1/2" spacer) $58.79

 

I ended up with about a foot of steel left over after I made the spacers and found a new machinist and will get some spacers made. I need another set and will probably have a set or 2 available if anyone is interested.

 

depending on overall price, count me in.

 

Gonna get a stick of 1 3/8" C1018 steel 36" long which should be good for 7-8 sets.

 

It was 1 year ago that I added these 13" BBK to my XJ. They have worked flawlessly.

Now 1 year later back in MOAB for EJS and really enjoy being able to stop on any uphill or downhill and not roll. This is on a XJ with 35" and about 5000lbs.

 

I have most of the parts collected for the 13.25" GT rotor swap. Just discovered I may have trouble getting the abs sensors mounted. Anyone else run into this?