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southfloridajeeps 09-02-2015 09:59 AM

10" lift steering and track bar help
 
Trying to track down a few problems
1.my track bar is shot and need input on what to do next... build a new one or buy one for 8+ inches of lift
2. My steering is all over the road....everything is brand new steering wise drag link,pitman arm is super dropped,tie rod ends and new heavy duty stableizer thinking I might have to go with high steer to get a better angle

Any help is greatly appreciated thanks

Fred/N0AZZ 09-02-2015 10:10 AM

Trade for a "Swamp Buggy" ??? 8>)


Don't know most don't quite that high with a lift, what size tires are you running 38, 40's? I guess you have at least I ton steering don't you, IDK so will shut up and refer to a crawler for info. I'm lost here more info would help on what pieces you are using in the steering now.

southfloridajeeps 09-02-2015 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ (Post 3136362)
Trade for a "Swamp Buggy" ???

It's my dd so no swap buggy for me

RedJeepster1 09-02-2015 11:25 AM

Got any pictures of it? IDEK what a cherokee would look like that high up...

southfloridajeeps 09-02-2015 12:17 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...082cafc65f.jpg

Originally Posted by RedJeepster1 (Post 3136389)
Got any pictures of it? IDEK what a cherokee would look like that high up...

I will get pictures up at some point tonight as for what Im running for sterring and tiers I have stock tie rod
And brand new "stock" drag link with rough country stabilizer and beefed up track bar with 35" mud tires

This is with 36" tsl super swampers 10 inch lift

andrewmp6 09-02-2015 11:16 PM

If you cut the fenders you can lower it do to 6 inches and have a lot less problems.

Fred/N0AZZ 09-03-2015 09:14 AM

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^ That for starters^


Lowering it at least much will help you a lot in steering, MPG's and general driving with roll over chances.


Then at the "Very Least a tie rod setup from a mid 90's V-8 GC much stronger than stock, direct bolt-in and under a $100 at AutoZone. Or a 1 ton setup but a lot more money.


Are you running 4.56 or 4.88 gears in it now to turn those tires with lockers in both?


I think you have the same bumper that I have on mine.
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southfloridajeeps 09-03-2015 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by RedJeepster1 (Post 3136389)
Got any pictures of it? IDEK what a cherokee would look like that high up...


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...422575f3ef.jpg


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...c4c82753d5.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...6810feb9de.jpg


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...b0fdb1f2c1.jpg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...296f31b5b5.jpg

southfloridajeeps 09-03-2015 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ (Post 3136839)
^ That for starters^


Lowering it at least much will help you a lot in steering, MPG's and general driving with roll over chances.


Then at the "Very Least a tie rod setup from a mid 90's V-8 GC much stronger than stock, direct bolt-in and under a $100 at AutoZone. Or a 1 ton setup but a lot more money.


Are you running 4.56 or 4.88 gears in it now to turn those tires with lockers in both?


I think you have the same bumper that I have on mine.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d5...psb3d98b62.jpg

It definitely does look like the same bumper! As for gears 4.10s front and rear no lockers and 2 piece axles eliminated the vacuum line

sycoglitch 09-03-2015 11:09 AM

Christ on a cracker, did you buy it with the steering that jacked up. Either you lower her to a more acceptable range or you go with 1 ton OTK steering. There should be nothing stock steering on a jeep lifted like that

southfloridajeeps 09-03-2015 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by sycoglitch (Post 3136908)
Christ on a cracker, did you buy it with the steering that jacked up. Either you lower her to a more acceptable range or you go with 1 ton OTK steering. There should be nothing stock steering on a jeep lifted like that

Bought it a month ago as is I changed all the fluids and ball joints what should I do with a track bar should I build one? And have been looking at this OKT would that help?http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/11060.html

Lowrange2 09-03-2015 11:23 AM

Wow!

That's... scary.

You drive this thing?

1. Your steering needs a serious makeover.

2. Your caster angle is way off and is most likely the largest contributing factor to the wandering. Not to mention the bald tires, insane steering angles and height to width ratio.

southfloridajeeps 09-03-2015 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Lowrange2 (Post 3136919)
Wow!

That's... scary.

You drive this thing?

1. Your steering needs a serious makeover.

2. Your caster angle is way off and is most likely the largest contributing factor to the wandering. Not to mention the bald tires, insane steering angles and height to width ratio.

Right now I'm driving a different vehicle until I figure out steering and order new tires I know the caster angle is way off that's why I need to figure out something over the knuckle or something

mrshaft696 09-03-2015 02:46 PM

the short arms are killing you too, even if the steering was tight, it would still ride like ****....

grab a dust boot while you are at it....

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...422575f3ef.jpg

southfloridajeeps 09-03-2015 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by mrshaft696 (Post 3136975)
the short arms are killing you too, even if the steering was tight, it would still ride like ****....

grab a dust boot while you are at it....

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...422575f3ef.jpg

I have 4 link front suspension

mrshaft696 09-03-2015 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by southfloridajeeps (Post 3136976)
I have 4 link front suspension



correct all Cherokees do, my bad phone pictures looked like phone pics.

southfloridajeeps 09-03-2015 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by mrshaft696 (Post 3136983)
correct all Cherokees do, yours is a short arm, still using the factory uca and lca mount locations, kind of like a tyrannosaurus rex arm.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...d97f5cff3f.jpg




https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...000dd8b2c1.jpg


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...d8dd6fa4aa.jpg

I apologize I should have been more clear 4 link Long arm suspension "not using factory mounts"

jbsjunk 09-03-2015 04:51 PM

1 ton over the knuckle steering. Change the track bar to an OTK steering set up.

Florida is famous for it's mud and swamps. This most likely tackles them.


bryweb 11-25-2015 11:02 PM

In short your Jeep is UNSAFE with its current steering, your just asking for something to break or bend and send yourself into another car(s) or pedestrian(s)

It is also unsafe going with 10" of lift and not wider axles/stance, you are just asking to roll it.

10" of lift = 40-42" tires which = one ton axles

I agree with what many posted here, I would lower the vehicle down myself.

But if you want to keep it that high, then look at one of the many quality OTK "Over The Knuckle" steering setups, and a double sheer track bar for OTK setup.

Anything over 4.5" lift with 33" tires you need to start looking at upgraded steering, anything over 6" lift and 35" tires you need to look at upgrading axles.

Do yourself a favor (and the world driving around you), and FIX IT RIGHT !!!!!

Jcjunkie 04-10-2020 05:54 AM

Newer pic after modification
 
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RockyMtn96XJ 04-10-2020 11:15 AM

I mean.... I'm just curious where the rocks are in Florida that requires that kind of lift... without rolling over.... And if it's deep mud you're looking for, good luck with those tires hahaha.... Oh wait, this thread is like 5 years old.....

Way to trick us Jcjunkie....

Griffyorcono 10-15-2020 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by RockyMtn96XJ (Post 3600529)
I mean.... I'm just curious where the rocks are in Florida that requires that kind of lift... without rolling over.... And if it's deep mud you're looking for, good luck with those tires hahaha.... Oh wait, this thread is like 5 years old.....

Way to trick us Jcjunkie....

I'm just going to keep the ball rolling and reply to this very very old thread of a bunch of people bashing on this guys XJ XD. You guys are mean sometimes

TRCM 10-15-2020 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Griffyorcono (Post 3623028)
I'm just going to keep the ball rolling and reply to this very very old thread of a bunch of people bashing on this guys XJ XD. You guys are mean sometimes

Sometimes, the truth really does hurt....................

(zombie thread for sure)


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Subseven 02-22-2021 07:54 AM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...802ca83e73.jpg

Griffyorcono 02-22-2021 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Subseven (Post 3637589)

This thread is going to live on forever lol

Battle 02-22-2021 12:26 PM

Tall lifts are dumb. You see them a lot in Florida too... makes you think...

(I lived in Florida and wheeled there with people on this forum so I can say that and it's okay lol)

4.3L XJ 02-22-2021 03:52 PM

You lift according to how and what you wheel.

EvanM 02-22-2021 04:30 PM

I'd run it. Probly with flat top knuckles with one ton steering over the steering arm. Might drive decent then but would take alot of work and have mis matched wheels

DuckDynastyGodwin 09-01-2021 01:16 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...cb156a153.jpeg
I was bored and planning on replacing headlamps eventually anyway so I experimented with some slight angry eyebrows.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...97658192c.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...0eaa0c5c4.jpeg
New tires!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...047b2c7d3.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...d935aa1734.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...4bdb77630.jpeg
Bumper on!

EvanM 09-02-2021 11:36 AM

Sweet ride

Joshua White 09-02-2021 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by RockyMtn96XJ (Post 3600529)
I mean.... I'm just curious where the rocks are in Florida that requires that kind of lift... without rolling over.... And if it's deep mud you're looking for, good luck with those tires hahaha.... Oh wait, this thread is like 5 years old.....

Way to trick us Jcjunkie....

There are no rocks, it's deep mud...and almost every XJ is either a clapped out pile slamming through those mud holes lifted in the most unsafe way possible for the cheapest amount of money available or a super clean pavement princess that only sees the beach sand once a week to talk about "Jeep life" with all the JKs

supertek65 03-04-2023 11:12 AM

Bump
 
This is so old the kid probably does not even own that XJ anymore.lol
curious if he ever got it fixed,also don't you just drill a new hole further out on the axle side track bar mount?

Rogue4x4 03-04-2023 01:10 PM

Closing the thread. No need to revive this.


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