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08-04-2017, 09:36 PM
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*Sorry if this isn't in the right place or not allowed - it kind of falls between stock and modified*
I know there's probably no "right" answer to this and there's a lot of variables -I'm just looking for some input and advice... I'm look to build a weekend camping/mild trail rig and occasional daily driver. My options are my current 1997 or my brother's 2001 (both 4 door, 4x4, autos)
I've owned my 97 XJ for a little over a year now. It's been pretty good to me and up until recently its been my work car and so it remained stock. I've since switched jobs and now don't need to use it for work. It's a Country/Limited (one door says Country, and the other says Limited - but from what I understand it has to be a Country) and has 108k miles on the clock (owned since 86k), put in a dual core aluminum radiator and have replaced the water pump, coil, ps pump, and a few other things. Its stock, in fair shape (dents and dings) but no rust, no carpet but the rest is typical 97 interior.
My brother bought his '01 sport a couple years ago and its a CREAM PUFF with only 67k miles on it. Its has a Rubicon Express 4.5 lift, SYE, and 31s. We got it from an older gentleman who bought it from Carmax in 2002 and towed it behind his motorhome.
I know the 01's get a pretty bad rep (0331 head, coil pack, LP axle, etc) but I also know 97s have problems as well. I put the initial buy-in at about the same because I can probably sell mine for what I can buy my brothers for.
To summarize:
97 = higher miles, poorer condition, stock, better axle/head, potential electrical headaches
01 = lower miles, better condition, lifted, less desirable axle/head, and the wife likes it better
So if you were in my shoes, which would you keep/build and why?
Thanks in advance!
I know there's probably no "right" answer to this and there's a lot of variables -I'm just looking for some input and advice... I'm look to build a weekend camping/mild trail rig and occasional daily driver. My options are my current 1997 or my brother's 2001 (both 4 door, 4x4, autos)
I've owned my 97 XJ for a little over a year now. It's been pretty good to me and up until recently its been my work car and so it remained stock. I've since switched jobs and now don't need to use it for work. It's a Country/Limited (one door says Country, and the other says Limited - but from what I understand it has to be a Country) and has 108k miles on the clock (owned since 86k), put in a dual core aluminum radiator and have replaced the water pump, coil, ps pump, and a few other things. Its stock, in fair shape (dents and dings) but no rust, no carpet but the rest is typical 97 interior.
My brother bought his '01 sport a couple years ago and its a CREAM PUFF with only 67k miles on it. Its has a Rubicon Express 4.5 lift, SYE, and 31s. We got it from an older gentleman who bought it from Carmax in 2002 and towed it behind his motorhome.
I know the 01's get a pretty bad rep (0331 head, coil pack, LP axle, etc) but I also know 97s have problems as well. I put the initial buy-in at about the same because I can probably sell mine for what I can buy my brothers for.
To summarize:
97 = higher miles, poorer condition, stock, better axle/head, potential electrical headaches
01 = lower miles, better condition, lifted, less desirable axle/head, and the wife likes it better
So if you were in my shoes, which would you keep/build and why?
Thanks in advance!
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08-05-2017, 06:59 AM
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*Sorry if this isn't in the right place or not allowed - it kind of falls between stock and modified*
I know there's probably no "right" answer to this and there's a lot of variables -I'm just looking for some input and advice... I'm look to build a weekend camping/mild trail rig and occasional daily driver. My options are my current 1997 or my brother's 2001 (both 4 door, 4x4, autos)
I've owned my 97 XJ for a little over a year now. It's been pretty good to me and up until recently its been my work car and so it remained stock. I've since switched jobs and now don't need to use it for work. It's a Country/Limited (one door says Country, and the other says Limited - but from what I understand it has to be a Country) and has 108k miles on the clock (owned since 86k), put in a dual core aluminum radiator and have replaced the water pump, coil, ps pump, and a few other things. Its stock, in fair shape (dents and dings) but no rust, no carpet but the rest is typical 97 interior.
My brother bought his '01 sport a couple years ago and its a CREAM PUFF with only 67k miles on it. Its has a Rubicon Express 4.5 lift, SYE, and 31s. We got it from an older gentleman who bought it from Carmax in 2002 and towed it behind his motorhome.
I know the 01's get a pretty bad rep (0331 head, coil pack, LP axle, etc) but I also know 97s have problems as well. I put the initial buy-in at about the same because I can probably sell mine for what I can buy my brothers for.
To summarize:
97 = higher miles, poorer condition, stock, better axle/head, potential electrical headaches
01 = lower miles, better condition, lifted, less desirable axle/head, and the wife likes it better
So if you were in my shoes, which would you keep/build and why?
Thanks in advance!
I know there's probably no "right" answer to this and there's a lot of variables -I'm just looking for some input and advice... I'm look to build a weekend camping/mild trail rig and occasional daily driver. My options are my current 1997 or my brother's 2001 (both 4 door, 4x4, autos)
I've owned my 97 XJ for a little over a year now. It's been pretty good to me and up until recently its been my work car and so it remained stock. I've since switched jobs and now don't need to use it for work. It's a Country/Limited (one door says Country, and the other says Limited - but from what I understand it has to be a Country) and has 108k miles on the clock (owned since 86k), put in a dual core aluminum radiator and have replaced the water pump, coil, ps pump, and a few other things. Its stock, in fair shape (dents and dings) but no rust, no carpet but the rest is typical 97 interior.
My brother bought his '01 sport a couple years ago and its a CREAM PUFF with only 67k miles on it. Its has a Rubicon Express 4.5 lift, SYE, and 31s. We got it from an older gentleman who bought it from Carmax in 2002 and towed it behind his motorhome.
I know the 01's get a pretty bad rep (0331 head, coil pack, LP axle, etc) but I also know 97s have problems as well. I put the initial buy-in at about the same because I can probably sell mine for what I can buy my brothers for.
To summarize:
97 = higher miles, poorer condition, stock, better axle/head, potential electrical headaches
01 = lower miles, better condition, lifted, less desirable axle/head, and the wife likes it better
So if you were in my shoes, which would you keep/build and why?
Thanks in advance!
08-05-2017, 07:00 AM
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No question, I'd rock the 97 all day long. For what you're describing using it for, 4.5" is much more than you need, and has it's own headaches. You said it has a SYE, that's good, but there's a lot more to be done to get a 4.5" lifted XJ right.
Go with the tried and true "classic" XJ mods. The great thing is you're starting with a stocker, so you can really do it right.
3" lift w/ LCAs, shocks, trackbar, etc.
31" A/Ts on 15X8s
Done.
Just my two cents.
Go with the tried and true "classic" XJ mods. The great thing is you're starting with a stocker, so you can really do it right.
3" lift w/ LCAs, shocks, trackbar, etc.
31" A/Ts on 15X8s
Done.
Just my two cents.
08-05-2017, 09:47 AM
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I would go with the '01 and preemptively swap the head with a Tupy or Clearwater.
The low pinion front axle isn't an issue unless you're doing some serious rock crawling or running big tires, in which case you would want to do some work on the front axle anyway and might as well just swap it for a high pinion axle from a prior year.
The coil rail is not a negative. It's a positive. The waste spark ignition system is the best ignition they ever put on the 4.0L. The computer will keep the thing running when the distributor ignition system would have given up and left you on the side of the road. People only dislike the coil rail because they can't pretend to be diagnosing problems by pulling plug wires off and staring at them.
After the head is replaced, the only negative of the '01 is the exhaust. The extra catalytic converters can be expensive, but at 67K miles they probably still have plenty of life in them. If you have the CA version, you'll also have four O2 sensors instead of two, which doubles the chances of an O2 wiring problem and makes replacement twice as expensive. Still wouldn't be enough of a negative to keep me from choosing the '01.
The low pinion front axle isn't an issue unless you're doing some serious rock crawling or running big tires, in which case you would want to do some work on the front axle anyway and might as well just swap it for a high pinion axle from a prior year.
The coil rail is not a negative. It's a positive. The waste spark ignition system is the best ignition they ever put on the 4.0L. The computer will keep the thing running when the distributor ignition system would have given up and left you on the side of the road. People only dislike the coil rail because they can't pretend to be diagnosing problems by pulling plug wires off and staring at them.
After the head is replaced, the only negative of the '01 is the exhaust. The extra catalytic converters can be expensive, but at 67K miles they probably still have plenty of life in them. If you have the CA version, you'll also have four O2 sensors instead of two, which doubles the chances of an O2 wiring problem and makes replacement twice as expensive. Still wouldn't be enough of a negative to keep me from choosing the '01.
08-05-2017, 04:06 PM
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hmmm personally id go with the 97 as well. Fresh build, dont have to worry about dinging it anymore, already has a few goodies added and the mileage is way low for cherokees. Plus you own it already lol i would put the carpets back in personally for the fact those floors get HOT.
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Build the 97. The mileage difference to the 01 isn't enough to deal with the headache of selling one and buying the other. You already own, rock it. Besides, it is my understanding that a vehicle pulled by a camper all over the nation basically has miles on the drivetrain above what the odometer says. While it is dragged all over the country, that is putting wear and tear on the drivetrain. Again, that's what I hear, take it for what you paid for it.
Also, why go behind someone else's mods? Start fresh with a blank slate.
BUT... You say the wife likes the 01 better? Maybe worth the headache to get that one and build it. Makes modding easier when the wife likes the vehicle. BTDT.
Also, why go behind someone else's mods? Start fresh with a blank slate.
BUT... You say the wife likes the 01 better? Maybe worth the headache to get that one and build it. Makes modding easier when the wife likes the vehicle. BTDT.
08-06-2017, 08:36 PM
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No question, I'd rock the 97 all day long. For what you're describing using it for, 4.5" is much more than you need, and has it's own headaches. You said it has a SYE, that's good, but there's a lot more to be done to get a 4.5" lifted XJ right.
Go with the tried and true "classic" XJ mods. The great thing is you're starting with a stocker, so you can really do it right.
3" lift w/ LCAs, shocks, trackbar, etc.
31" A/Ts on 15X8s
Done.
Just my two cents.
Go with the tried and true "classic" XJ mods. The great thing is you're starting with a stocker, so you can really do it right.
3" lift w/ LCAs, shocks, trackbar, etc.
31" A/Ts on 15X8s
Done.
Just my two cents.
I would go with the '01 and preemptively swap the head with a Tupy or Clearwater.
The low pinion front axle isn't an issue unless you're doing some serious rock crawling or running big tires, in which case you would want to do some work on the front axle anyway and might as well just swap it for a high pinion axle from a prior year.
The coil rail is not a negative. It's a positive. The waste spark ignition system is the best ignition they ever put on the 4.0L. The computer will keep the thing running when the distributor ignition system would have given up and left you on the side of the road. People only dislike the coil rail because they can't pretend to be diagnosing problems by pulling plug wires off and staring at them.
After the head is replaced, the only negative of the '01 is the exhaust. The extra catalytic converters can be expensive, but at 67K miles they probably still have plenty of life in them. If you have the CA version, you'll also have four O2 sensors instead of two, which doubles the chances of an O2 wiring problem and makes replacement twice as expensive. Still wouldn't be enough of a negative to keep me from choosing the '01.
The low pinion front axle isn't an issue unless you're doing some serious rock crawling or running big tires, in which case you would want to do some work on the front axle anyway and might as well just swap it for a high pinion axle from a prior year.
The coil rail is not a negative. It's a positive. The waste spark ignition system is the best ignition they ever put on the 4.0L. The computer will keep the thing running when the distributor ignition system would have given up and left you on the side of the road. People only dislike the coil rail because they can't pretend to be diagnosing problems by pulling plug wires off and staring at them.
After the head is replaced, the only negative of the '01 is the exhaust. The extra catalytic converters can be expensive, but at 67K miles they probably still have plenty of life in them. If you have the CA version, you'll also have four O2 sensors instead of two, which doubles the chances of an O2 wiring problem and makes replacement twice as expensive. Still wouldn't be enough of a negative to keep me from choosing the '01.
hmmm personally id go with the 97 as well. Fresh build, dont have to worry about dinging it anymore, already has a few goodies added and the mileage is way low for cherokees. Plus you own it already lol i would put the carpets back in personally for the fact those floors get HOT.
Build the 97. The mileage difference to the 01 isn't enough to deal with the headache of selling one and buying the other. You already own, rock it. Besides, it is my understanding that a vehicle pulled by a camper all over the nation basically has miles on the drivetrain above what the odometer says. While it is dragged all over the country, that is putting wear and tear on the drivetrain. Again, that's what I hear, take it for what you paid for it.
Also, why go behind someone else's mods? Start fresh with a blank slate.
BUT... You say the wife likes the 01 better? Maybe worth the headache to get that one and build it. Makes modding easier when the wife likes the vehicle. BTDT.
Also, why go behind someone else's mods? Start fresh with a blank slate.
BUT... You say the wife likes the 01 better? Maybe worth the headache to get that one and build it. Makes modding easier when the wife likes the vehicle. BTDT.
And yes, the wife's approval goes a LOOOOONGGGG way haha
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