What else used a 5 x 4.5 pattern??
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^ That works for most trucks.
I didnt see a Dodge A100 van/truck in there (not that youll find one easily)
Toyota Supra's also have the 5x114.3 pattern (only positive about mk3 supras)
I didnt see a Dodge A100 van/truck in there (not that youll find one easily)
Toyota Supra's also have the 5x114.3 pattern (only positive about mk3 supras)
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I'm loving this thread subject because I'm wondering the same thing as well. If I may, I'd would like to add that pics would be a wonderful thing as well along with Backspace and size of wheels and tires to go along with it.
As far as the GM wheels fitting with the 5X115 bolt pattern, yes they will fit. It's only a small fraction difference in the size BUT it IS a different size. You put extra stress on the studs basically bending them slightly when you install the lug nuts and I don't think you want any added stress to the wheels or studs than already is given in an offroad vehicle. If 5X114.3 and 5X115 were the same size, they wouldn't be listed as 2 different sizes and applied to different applications. They would share one size listing. I've done it before, but was never comfortable with having that much twist on the studs for my liking. You never know when they could just snap off. ESPECIALLY 4 wheeling.
As far as the GM wheels fitting with the 5X115 bolt pattern, yes they will fit. It's only a small fraction difference in the size BUT it IS a different size. You put extra stress on the studs basically bending them slightly when you install the lug nuts and I don't think you want any added stress to the wheels or studs than already is given in an offroad vehicle. If 5X114.3 and 5X115 were the same size, they wouldn't be listed as 2 different sizes and applied to different applications. They would share one size listing. I've done it before, but was never comfortable with having that much twist on the studs for my liking. You never know when they could just snap off. ESPECIALLY 4 wheeling.
Mustang Cobra wheels are 115s and those fit fine on a 114.3 with no binding.
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I know to you .7mm doesnt sound like a lot, but to me that is a BUNCH. I have to hold my parts within .02mm which is .0007874 in. If i was jumping around .7mm, I'd get fired. I know its not wheels but I sure as hell wouldn't trust it.
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Just because your line of work requires absolute precision does not mean every thing is held to the same standards. Believe it or not some things are built with "slop" in mind and don't require the exact precision your parts do.
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Not really. It doesn't depend on the wheel. The lug sits on the holes on the wheels and will tug on the stud no matter how you slice it. There is a reason why they are not listed as the same size. Because they are NOT the same size!
So what you're saying is, if that the holes on the wheels are bigger than normal you can do it? What that tells me is that the lugs aren't holding the wheels like they are supposed to. Once you torque those babies down, there is tugging on all 5 lugs not just one. Hold up a 7mm socket and tell me it's not a lot.this is one of those things where wheel guys will tell you absolutely not and guys that have gotten lucky and nothing happen say that you can do it. It would really suck to snap lug studs because you have the wrong lug pattern on your rig. You'll look kinda stupid explaining that one.
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Not really. It doesn't depend on the wheel. The lug sits on the holes on the wheels and will tug on the stud no matter how you slice it. There is a reason why they are not listed as the same size. Because they are NOT the same size! So what you're saying is, if that the holes on the wheels are bigger than normal you can do it? What that tells me is that the lugs aren't holding the wheels like they are supposed to. Once you torque those babies down, there is tugging on all 5 lugs not just one. Hold up a 7mm socket and tell me it's not a lot.
this is one of those things where wheel guys will tell you absolutely not and guys that have gotten lucky and nothing happen say that you can do it. It would really suck to snap lug studs because you have the wrong lug pattern on your rig. You'll look kinda stupid explaining that one.
So what you're saying is, if that the holes on the wheels are bigger than normal you can do it? What that tells me is that the lugs aren't holding the wheels like they are supposed to. Once you torque those babies down, there is tugging on all 5 lugs not just one. Hold up a 7mm socket and tell me it's not a lot.this is one of those things where wheel guys will tell you absolutely not and guys that have gotten lucky and nothing happen say that you can do it. It would really suck to snap lug studs because you have the wrong lug pattern on your rig. You'll look kinda stupid explaining that one.
The bolded is what you want. You want to divide the pressure to five lugs not one.
Conical shaped lug nuts are used to center the wheels onto the studs.
The bigger issue is most of the 5x114.3 wheels comes in with the back spacing.
So test fitting is going to need to be done to start with. If it doesn't look good on the studs then on to another set.
You can't disreguard an item just because it's description doesn't match exactly.
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.7mm is quite a bit different then 7mm.
The bolded is what you want. You want to divide the pressure to five lugs not one.
Conical shaped lug nuts are used to center the wheels onto the studs.
The bigger issue is most of the 5x114.3 wheels comes in with the back spacing.
So test fitting is going to need to be done to start with. If it doesn't look good on the studs then on to another set.
You can't disreguard an item just because it's description doesn't match exactly.
The bolded is what you want. You want to divide the pressure to five lugs not one.
Conical shaped lug nuts are used to center the wheels onto the studs.
The bigger issue is most of the 5x114.3 wheels comes in with the back spacing.
So test fitting is going to need to be done to start with. If it doesn't look good on the studs then on to another set.
You can't disreguard an item just because it's description doesn't match exactly.
And yes, you can disregard an item that doesn't match exactly. It's actually quite easy to do. You should try it some time.
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Wow, really? When it comes to rims, .7mm IS quite a bit. That'll cause a lot of binding on the studs while rolling down the hwy, much less, when you're crawling over rocks with aired down tires. Why do think NO respectable rim shop will put them on for you? 'Cuz they know they'd get their butts sued off when those studs snap. Do it right, 5x4.5 or 5x114.3. NOTHING ELSE!
And yes, you can disregard an item that doesn't match exactly. It's actually quite easy to do. You should try it some time.
And yes, you can disregard an item that doesn't match exactly. It's actually quite easy to do. You should try it some time.
When it's not exact a test fit is all that's needed if it doesn't work it doesn't work. If it does then golden. But if it works and you ignored it because it wasn't exact then you lose out.
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Wow, really? When it comes to rims, .7mm IS quite a bit. That'll cause a lot of binding on the studs while rolling down the hwy, much less, when you're crawling over rocks with aired down tires. Why do think NO respectable rim shop will put them on for you? 'Cuz they know they'd get their butts sued off when those studs snap. Do it right, 5x4.5 or 5x114.3. NOTHING ELSE!
And yes, you can disregard an item that doesn't match exactly. It's actually quite easy to do. You should try it some time.
And yes, you can disregard an item that doesn't match exactly. It's actually quite easy to do. You should try it some time.
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Ok let's keep it civil people.
The XJ uses a 5x114.3mm and some people have and use a 5x115mm lug patterned wheel.
Some say it's not safe and puts more pressure on the studs, possibly aiding in failure of said studs.
Others say it's fine and the .7mm difference is negligible.
Better?
I just don't want to see this thread going the route of the Turbo/Supercharger thread. But I do appreciate the input guys.
Great link, thanks man!
The XJ uses a 5x114.3mm and some people have and use a 5x115mm lug patterned wheel.
Some say it's not safe and puts more pressure on the studs, possibly aiding in failure of said studs.
Others say it's fine and the .7mm difference is negligible.
Better?
I just don't want to see this thread going the route of the Turbo/Supercharger thread. But I do appreciate the input guys.
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Ok let's keep it civil people.
The XJ uses a 5x114.3mm and some people have and use a 5x115mm lug patterned wheel.
Some say it's not safe and puts more pressure on the studs, possibly aiding in failure of said studs.
Others say it's fine and the .7mm difference is negligible.
Better?
I just don't want to see this thread going the route of the Turbo/Supercharger thread. But I do appreciate the input guys.
Great link, thanks man!
The XJ uses a 5x114.3mm and some people have and use a 5x115mm lug patterned wheel.
Some say it's not safe and puts more pressure on the studs, possibly aiding in failure of said studs.
Others say it's fine and the .7mm difference is negligible.
Better?
I just don't want to see this thread going the route of the Turbo/Supercharger thread. But I do appreciate the input guys.
Great link, thanks man!